Bucci's Bombastic Visage

Visage is not one of my favorite heroes, but I like this build, maybe I will start to like Visage

Perfect!! U've covered all aspect!! 9/10 4 U

Hey, this one is nice.

Why would you get necromicon... Deso is interesting enough, but necromicon after? you need the heart pretty quick or you're useless to your team.

HAve you ever considered building the visage as a damage dealer or a tank I've seen both done and both done well

I like this strategy, I used it and it works well, although I usually get Deso before the book.

Very nice guide. Especially the item build. I could never come up with a good build for Visage. This guide helped me alot. Thx.

Interesting. Didn't know the bats become magically immune later on - Visage players usually don't last that long. I also don't get why all the comments here say how good this guide is, yet it only has 3 stars...?!?

You said: "It's like an area of effect blade mail. Super helpful to teams if you're the tank, dishes out major area of effect damage. Not useful in early game because you are not in a position to take enough damage for this skill to be effective." If you read the spell description, they don't have to be attacking you, they only have to attack. A good ally is Axe, because he makes the enemy keep on attacking.

i prefer to use vanguards than to use HoT because it is cheaper and the enemies usually do not want to kill visage first due to its gravekeeper's cloak and mekansm. Next I do not pick soul assumption first because it is not that useful and a mana waste instead I max first the grave chill and gravekeeper's cloak early...I've try it already in tournaments and it worked...and also the necronomicon I do not prefer to use that item

what would happen to the desolator since it is an orb effect and yet soul assumption is also an orb effect? would it be overlapped by the skill?

Not bad. But I still prefer VIPER !!!!

this ones so cool... didn't even got the 2nd upgrade on the necro... grabe first time use ko dami hero kills... lolz

Thanks for the comments. @quazar read the guide for your answer. @ lord chewie i knew they didnt have to attack you but since gk cloak works on both the damage they deal and the damage they deal through spells, so therfore you are their first target and you are not in a position early on to front line team clashes for the enemies to be under the area of effect of gk's cloak. And thanks for that tip on having axe as an ally. I tried it and it works well.

Good strategy. Altho i thoguht it would be useful to mention the imba-ness of grave keeper's cloak in early laning (if u solo) as it virtully allows u to out-harass any hero. (yes even viper)

where is your radince ?

nice strat he really onws hard

oooh awww ive been looking for a way to play him

I really don't know how to play this hero, thank you I've finally know how

MKB is better than desolator

nice strat !!!
bravo !!!
it helped me a lot

hmm not bad but i usually get eye of skudi first as it is not an orb effect to RANGE heros.....slow and relevants hit..sure kill heres my iteam build:
Threads
EoS
HoT
Butterfly
rapier
aegis

You can get a hyperstone in early game and change it to butterfly at late game ^^

nice!

radiance??? wtf where is radiance??? late heart??? omg... ORBWALKING??? how you solo mid vs sylla w/o ORBWALKING??? Animation cancelling? Visage's animation is even more pathetic than slayer's... You're good build, just need either vanguard/heart and radiance... REMEMBER THE RADIANCE. w/o it, enemy just kills your allies and owns you. True, you can slow, but you cant slow 5 heroes hitting you. (after your allies die)

i would just like to insert a lol @ WeaveMyWayIntoYourBase - because radiance is definitly going to allow you to kill 5 heroes. radiance is pretty worthless for this guy.

Overall, decent guide. Um..... please tell me why you get bracer instead of null tullisman. Is visage not intel?
Anyways, my build is PT, arcane ring, guinsoo's, linkens, desolater

+ aegis, srry

cool!!!! b4 i rid this thing i actualy did dat on a game ecept 4 the necros and deso dis the 1st time i herd about dat deso im gona try dat!!!!but 4 sure when u got taras aegis buriza treds and ginso next is god lyk!!!!!!!!!wahahahaa

cool!!!! b4 i rid this thing i actualy did dat on a game ecept 4 the necros and deso dis the 1st time i herd about dat deso im gona try dat!!!!but 4 sure when u got taras aegis buriza treds and ginso next is god lyk!!!!!!!!!wahahahaa

I recommend not putting grave chill early game. Go for cloak and assumption thing for starters. Necronomicron is never recommended for beginners, unless they know how to micromanagement. You can now change Mekansm with Assault for fast kill. It works! Too bad this was made before 6.42...

nice guide, good job

ur comment is very useful..thank you so much for sharing..keep up the gud work

i thought that visage was dull and boring but you made it very impressing by your info
i'll try him LOl!!!!!

assault cuirass is an excellent item for visage...

Good job on a decent Visage guide but pls Deso is not a good item your wasting your +40 damage orb on it I suggest radiance or Mkb.

ya, really sick build, i just played a game using this build, but i got an asault curias to take down their armor more and for attack speed, i would add that to ur build, i went 14-2 it works really well

"i would just like to insert a lol @ WeaveMyWayIntoYourBase - because radiance is definitly going to allow you to kill 5 heroes. radiance is pretty worthless for this guy."
nubs these days.. sum1 has to tell you visage is a TANK

Uhm... it possible that for visage to use a deso if i know the second skill is have a orb effect an like of moon fang range type hero doesnt have a orb effect haha!!!

zomg.

Can anyone tell me if this hero is good for late game?

^ Yes Visage can be played as a late game tank if you mass hearts.

o by the way, EOS doesn't work w/ the soul asumption. well that's what happend when i tried it

Ok, I've got to admit, that before this strategy, Visage was the only hero in Dota that I found completely useless. There's a few other heroes that just can't hang with the Abaddons, Gondars, and Strgwyrs (when people know how to use them), but even they have they're place if used right. Before this strat I was never anything but food for the other team when I randomed Visage and didn't repick. I simply could not see how he could compete. This strat totally opened my eyes to an effective way of using him. I just went 7 and 1 with him online. Pick your fights carefully, and be very smart about how to use him, and he can be dominant. I was able to hold of a Rexxar and Furion from pushing into our base all by myself with my bats. I give it a ten. He's a dominant pusher with this build. In this 7 and 1 game, my team was out pawned 11 to 25, and we still won in 38 minutes. Thanks for the help!

Btw, my build with him was mekansm, treads, deso, necronomicon, ASSAULT CUIRASS, and then heart. Which, honestly I thought there was no way I'd be able to get those items, but focus firing the creeps is so effective. I had twice as many creep kills than every other hero in the game except one.

very good strategy !! i tryd it and it worked perfectly !! GOOD farming:D hero killing also is great but i dindt got nicronomicon because i prefered a scythe of vyse what worked good aswell :)

not bad. i would get heart first.. for living

Why get Soul Assumption and Desolater?? They don't stack so take stats instead of Soul Assumption. Very nice otherwise.

whats does it mean when it say its orb effect?

very nice! you thought of everything!

wow i like this one but what can i use instead of necronomicron

Uhh..... I have some differences from your build but i've tried it and liked it. Still I still find Assault Curiass more useful than desolator but thats my opinion nice strat though. ^_^

Fine strategy my friend

@Bruno_89
Remember Desolator only requires abt one hit to lower armor after which u can easily activate Soul assumption and get the required bonus damage without any damage
redusction

impressive work.

:)

n1

Totally agree with comment 11, 100% correct
@ 26 tho, obviously it won't kill the enemy but it's really good for farming cuz it works alongside with the cloak. It's also a hefty +60dmg.

However, (general) have u considered a mask of madness? or even a blademail to conquer the absolute useless armor?

simply Skadi + S&Y + Grave Chill Sloowwss...

We Use BoTH iTEMs oN VIsAGE..

If most of the team is melee visage = automatic GG with the following build:

Vanguard
RotB
Boots
2 blademails
HoT
Power Treads to replace boots
blademail to replace RotB

Final build:

3 blademails
HoT
treads
Vanguard

You are especially dangerous when being ganked by multiple melee heroes. I know this is usually something which means DANGER for most heroes - but the more damage being dealt to you the better, and hot + vanguard + high armor from blademail will ensure you take barely any damage while returning 80%, 20% of which is in a huge AOE.

There is no way for a melee team to defeat a properly built necrolic.

To see the strategy I just mentioned in action check out this replay:

http://www.krauselabs.net/tanknecro.w3g

To see the strategy I just mentioned in action check out this replay:

http://www.krauselabs.net/tanknecro.w3g

well visage is great if u have fast fingers. i prefer one unit instead of 10 (heart > necro) 7/10

Just add Burizado to build and Visage owns

Mechasm,Desolator
Necrominicon ,PowerTreads
Tarrasque,Burizado

Nice one...Your build is same as mine

ummmm. why is there power treads and boots of speed??? Im a noob and i know that they stac

o i get it now...... You get teh power treads AFTER you get the boots of speed

thx bro... :

Perfect guide, im gonna start using Visage now, 10/10 Bravo! Brilliant!

why deso?? soul assumption is orb, try guinsoo or mkb

Nice strat dude, appreciate

nice

is it wrong to summon the bats and attack the towers?

way to go lots of revenants and necronomicon good pusher

I liked your strat dude, it helps me a lot in the begining, but with some practice i have some tips to share of my style to use visage...

1. i dont even learn Gravekeeper`s Cloak in order to get stats first, and to get a desolator that has an orb effect alredy, this skill i usless cause you dont have time to kill creeps when your hp is low and a enemy hero is engaging, btw i think that the hp you gain from the creep is so useless at late game. And the creeps will dont leave their corpse that is needed to summon your revenants, so i totally forgot about this skill.

2. i agree with the most of your build, but i like so much to try the Assault Cuirass after the desolator, it gives -5 armor plus -6 of the desolator corruption makes a lot af difference, without say anything about the atk speed that it gives to your 7 revenants and + 5 armor aura, and... in the late game u will have a visage with 8 + 17.8 of armor so i dont need to say more assaut cuirass is expensive but a most for visage.

The game will flow so easily getting this two items for damage, and don´t forget of course... protection items, i like too much Hood of Defiance if needed or linkens sphere and that kind of protection items... and items that could save you from bein killed, it depends on your enemys... I hope it could help more and enjoy visage cause its a great hero

LoL sorry for double post but i confused the skill names

LoL sorry for double post but i confused the skill names

im noob andi was playing this dota game and i randomed visage i fed so much my ratio was 0-9 everyone was saying omg leave alredy then i got angrey and killed myself cause i didnt know how to use viage but now i know thx for the great strategy

i'll take a wack at visage.....and try to see if i can demolish towers easily...

FUCK U ASSHOLE

In my opinion, Visage is a hopeless hero. pathetically weak. but anyway, excellent guide. You just made visage from a useless hero to a above average hero. And that's saying something.

In my opinion, Visage is a hopeless hero. pathetically weak. but anyway, excellent guide. You just made visage from a useless hero to a above average hero. And that's saying something.

GOOD MAN!!.. i'll Try your strategies right away!!!!

This is an excellent guide. I rarely used Visage before reading it, and I've noticed that pubbies avoid him like the plague. Now I see him as one of the strongest heroes in the game...!

lol, greedy you're not active anymore?

Nice work!

I'll try to use this hero in some games.. Hopefully I'd be a good pusher.. This hero is good for pushing IMO.. He's not the best in hero killing but his skills can synergize with other heroes especially his grave chill..

Good, good, good, I dun'think bfore deso can be used 4 dis hero, but after I read dis' guide... I know...
But I think with cuirass this hero will be own
I built:
Treads,
Mekans,
Deso/EoS,
Cuirass,
Necro/guinsoo/dagon,
then HoT...

Skadi then butterfly and tarrasque, right??????

I really like this build, I might replace the bracer and the mek with a van guard if I use this build though. 10/10

i didnt know how to use visage anyway i pay a game while seeing this strategy....
visage owns!! i start like him !!

I was having some mana troubles in the early/mid game so I got an arcane ring. This really helped mana wise so I could autocast raise revenants.

holy **** it makes my career bloom! lol

Well.. With this build u pwns off mostly anything... Heart is not that important though, if ure not carry ^^ at least not in the versions where shivas avilible!

Treads/bot, meka, deso(thx 2 u!), shiva/ac, nercominion, heart/guinsoo (replaces rob and is mostly last item for me).
Its rare that i find eos needed on visage, but sure, it works. With meka early u probably wont need vanguards btw.
IMO :) Hugs 2 all of u!

nice strats..

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!!!!!!! visage will mop the floor with all your bear hide

Needs an update on the new soul assumption..

All you need for this guy is Deso and Assault. That's basically IT and you would own for sure!

i would buy offering and hearts

I'd rather use shiva's guard than necromicon.

I dont understand when u say gravekeepers cloak reflects major damage. When it says it relects AND heals? So it returns damage and heals allies or what? Im missing it somewhere.

I dont understand when u say gravekeepers cloak reflects major damage. When it says it relects AND heals? So it returns damage and heals allies or what? Im missing it somewhere.

@ Mc.Wicked,
this guide was made for the OLD visage. the author hasn't updated the guide in accordance to the skill remake.

@ Mc.Wicked,
this guide was made for the OLD visage. the author hasn't updated the guide in accordance to the skill remake.

a good guide for a great hero , gj
as another item to consider i would add assault cuirass

Ns build kid but I'm kinda, well.. kinda hard for me to get those things from 10 to 16 but your strategy was great

soul assemption is an orb effect. stygian desolater is an orb effect too. this two will not does stack

@The Ronin:

Erm, genius? They dont stack but it's not like as if you use assumption on every hit

^ The ronin and rillan, Soul assumption is no longer an orb effect, in fact, that isn't even the same effect anymore. The new Soul Assumption is that you get healed per unit that dies in the AoE, and you get bonus damage per each unit killed in the AoE. So it is not an orb effect anymore

i'd like to ask, whouldn't mkb be better instead of desolator? it gives more damage, it's still easy to farm plus it gives attack speed.oh and no orb effect