Rylai Crestfall - Wild Cowgirl, Martyr... Hero.
Created by Nikbo on 2007-02-07
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Is it appropriate to get EoS for Rylai???
you should get refresher after aghanims
EoS for rylai isnt good,
@nikbo
i wouldnt like to put lothar on rylai since a gem/wards that costs 700/500-400 gold counters wind walk , id rather get blink,
Rob is still good for rylai considering your build since your gonna sell basilus later,
other than that good job, brilliance aura though should be gotten for me if your team mates are mana reliant, since your a walking voidstone +33% if you got this,
brilliance aura is a nice skill... why putting it at lvl 22-25??
hmm... threads,aghanism,guinsoo,linken,EOS and dagon....
EoS gives Rylai more HP than needed.Moreover,frost attack rox with frostbite!!!!!!
She do earn the name of Crystal Maiden.
EoS gives Rylai more HP than needed.Moreover,frost attack rox with frostbite!!!!!!
She do earn the name of Crystal Maiden.
wrong wrong must but bkb as first weapon. or how can u use ur ulti pls. skill buiolt also not good. BA is very important for u.
This guide is articulate and well-written. I agree that Brilliance aura can be spent on stats, but if you do, then RoB is actually a great early game item. 525 gold for 6 damage (claws = 650), 3 armor (ring = 200), and 65% brilliance = 2 stat skills. All this at level 2 or 3. And refresher is good, if you can afford it after Aghanim and Lothar. Good guide. Dota noob, instead of EoS, try Linken. Same benefits, smaller cost. With Refresher, never go to the fountain again.
i think that the refresher orb ides is good u juz freeze, ult,(get klenes dagger) blink freeze ult= sure kill
i dont like ur skill build or item build after aganims...first of all u should get brilliance aura sometime after u get lvl 4 of frostbite or nova and you need refresher orb after ur aganims and blademail is not necessary, melee heroes alredy take enough damge from ur ultimate nova and ur frostbite.
ok dude, why did you say NO to ring of basi if you dont get brilliance aura anyway??? thats jus stupid. and i think brilliance aura is pretty good in begginning because you can keep nuking and nuking without having to waste potions
Nice strat! Item build is so-so [no Blink Dagger]. Good escape and harassing tactics
The aura is useless early game. Stats is better. www.meetyourmakers.com watch pros use crystal maiden, they all go stats. I perfer the Black King Bar more than the Lorthars Edge. And you should get Ring of Basillus early game it helps :D. And dagger is very useful. @dOtA-AlLsTAr go check some replays they all go stats instead.
About the lack of RoB and BA, realistically theres no use. Sure its nice in the beginning, but if you don't die 2-3 times before level 10, by the time you're out in the field for the long haul you'll have so mucha mana it won't matter.
And yes, Lothat's is counterable by wards or gem, but you really use Lothar's for either 2 seconds running into battle, or if you get jumped in the woods where there won't be wards.
The point is, there are many strategies, this one is based on the assumption you aren't planning on every possible thing to go wrong. You're planning on getting in, nuking, and getting right back out.
P.S - same with the balde mail. It's a bonus that it does damage, the main reason for it (or for the plate mail) is the extra defense at the point in the game where STR chars can tank your spell combo and deal tons of damage. The extra armor lets you take your hits and still get home, even if a teammate has to finish the kill.
Not much of a team player ... The aura makes you and another nuker very effective. Instead you could always make the other guy get a bas-ring. Yay teamwork.
you should buy dagon in the early or dun buy
no offence but this guide neads some serious patching up. instead of a lothars why not a blink dagger its much more effective seeing as the heros can stop you by eitber buying wards, gem or have heros that can use they're abilities to see you. another thing is that dagon is sooooo useless i hate that items its 4 noobs (except in some cases) and why would you get it at end game. When heroes are running around with an average of 2000 hp a 400 aint gonna do alot and thats not even taking of the armor. Seriously fix this guide.
exchange LOTHARS to BKB more effective....i dont agree with your skill build and little at your item build... well i will give you 6/10
Don't change your guide. It seems nice to me, even though i'm still newbie on DotA. Anyone else not agreeing should make their own guide! Thumbs up for the guide. Very explicit, very easy to understand!
Good work!
Blink is alot cheaper than lorthors, But hey! I dont like it at all, I prefer My Build alot better, Although i like a Plate mail idea..
Mine = BoT, BKB, Blink Dagger, Aghems, Linkins.
Left a spot free
I jsut want the linkins incase you idiotys forget to turn bkb on lol!
My idea,Blink in avatar frost bite, Ulti, Frost Nova, Should die
If your with a team mate its gg.
Also jsut noticed, Since hes not going blink dagger, He doesnt want a aura to show up while ganking, ust clearing taht up for people who are arguing, Like like me with sven, I dont get his aura till late game
Brilliance aura really helpful in my opionion. It's like your free void stone. Or you get another void stone and mass mana regen to spam your frostbite/frostnova. Not to mention if you have laned with somebody, they get the boosted mana regen as well
i no get an eye for uber slowage!
so wat if your enemies are like doom and venomancer? wat wud be ur item build?
i suggest rOB first then rOH then point booster, then vita booster, then stout shield, then dagger of escape..
i suggest survibabilty man..
since nukers are constantly the one being pounce on..
so u get a vanguard and point booster plus boots and ROB.. i agree with your stats but i get BA when 13-15..
its quite good for spamming..
and since you said ur gonna spam nova?
no regen skill or items? having large mana cannot suffice when it comes to spam and harrasing..
BA is so important..
instead of null you can use BA...
Aghanim's/Lothar's is fine. Better for beginners than a blink dagger. Dagon is pretty lost in that build. I suggest prioritizing survivability once you finish the lothar's edge. Rylai late game plays more of a support role, as nukes don't go for as much as it used to. But having a disable is good for team battle. You need some team battle information for this guide, it's too focused on solo gaming. BTW, my stand is stats>BA.
nice I liked very much now i can kill everyone in the internet thx.
blink dagger is basic for her
I like your strategy but, I don't like your items much. I'd say black king bar should be part of your core build with blink dagger, then work your way towards the aghanims since (of course) you need to be able to ult to be able to kill and being stunned out of it is just a moodkiller.
P.S. dagon is just bad.
Sorry for double post, there isn't an edit function.
I just read through the comments, don't listen to the BA kids
It is a crappy spell, thats why they're thinking of rming it.
its nice but a bit lacking...y dont u try this..threads,EoS,linkens,dagger of escape and aegis...simple yet so deadly....
frankly, Dagon isnt a good item for CM compared to Guinsoo, BKB and Blink Dagger. Usually, experienced CM players will rush for BKB followed by Blink Dagger. overall, this guide is not bad.
no blink gg
4/10
Eos is useless for maiden, just becoz its cool to have a frost attack its compatible with her?
blink dagger is a must for her, cheap and deadly useful for surprise..
you gave yourself for her when you ww..
the sound gave you away..
ei how about if an enemy use dagger of escape or bkb
i noticed something but no flames i could be horribly wrong the ending items has 7 items. I might be wrong because i dunno what it takes to build vangaurd all i no is that it pwns with abaddon
first bracer not a null..maiden have low hp at early game..with bracer..she can cast freezing and frosbite...with this combo your opponent must be die...1st blood!!but..nice strat..
you're gonna want brilliance aura early game, of course after Frostbite, and Frost Nova, but yeah, it's still good.. besides that, I like it!
i think you should consider brilliance aura in the early game, refresher orb is the best item for crestfall, it can literally kill 5 heroes at the same time with her freezing field
How about Skadi? She is the queen of ice afterall. I usually get it late when heroes have high HP and your ult no longer finishes them off, slows them while your slow and freeze are on CD.
if u want easy kill linkens,kelens so no one can stop yur freezing field!!
i had 17 dobol kills with dis hero
Nothing wrong with the build of items, but why the black king bar, does it make you imune against spells or what? cause i dont no that one yet...?
aside from her innate sexy gurl... this guide is great...
boots of travel, guinsoo, linken, refresher, mechanism, dagger of escape... you choose in what order
to firesprite...
i agree with your *most* of your items but threads? lol dude, crystal maiden doesn't need attack speed, better to get B.o.T for teleporting, pushing, defending, etc.
sorry for double post, um, for all the people who are saying blink dagger, blink dagger is a must. he did put blink dagger as an optional item, and the use of blink is simple, first, Avatar with your BKB. then blink in right next to them, ulti, and finish with frost nova, the main point of blink is for escaping, chasing, and most important, catching the enemy off guard so they dont have time to micro.
I'm not a dota pro or anything, but i play CM like...always, and from personal experience and observation of other players bkb+blink after the basic necessities works the best. Also maiden honestly doesnt need freezing field until you max bite and nova unless you're really solo oriented (which isn't how dota is supposed to be for this character).
Just get Bite and Nova up as fast as you can, start off with bracer like that other guy said, get a couple essifications screw the brilliance aura early game cause it sucks, get a clarity and team up with another nuker. Slayer and Twin Headed work really nicely, Bite hit hit Stun/Freeze (depending on slayer or dragon) hit wait for unfreeze/unstun and nova and then they're usually dead at this point unless its later in the game.
Once you get bite and nova up then go ahead and start adding FF points because honestly anyone who knows what they're doing and has a stun or interrupting move isnt going to stand there and go "hey look its a CM running into our team...lets laeve her alone" and without BKB or blink for element of surprise earlier in the game its not very useful. Late game though I have to disagree that FF's usefulness is reduced. Late game when everyone is spamming the crap out of each other in a team battle its really easy to just blink in with avatar on and nuke their entire team. Easy triple kills for you or your teammates that can finish the job.
This guide doesn't seem bad if you were going solo CM but CM is really not a solo player at all. All her skills are oriented towards teamplay and should be used as such. (or so it seems to me)
If i have said anything extremely stupid (as i am pretty noob at this game) please let me know. We're all learning (=.
Thanx for lettin us know about the bassilisk ring and how its a big no no i didnt think they stacked but was never sure ty.
Rob Stacks with her Aura with the new .42 version
labuan rylai SMK Labuan
:when an enemy hero casts cyclone on rylai while she is channeling her ultimate, her ultimate casts non-stop without cost any mana after that.Eventhough she dies, she still can continue cast her ultimate passively when she is revived. cool isn't it!!!
with eos aganim and some ms nothing can stop relay
you have perfect strategy to start to end
i totally disagree with the item build.. i find the items that you should be aiming for is BoT, Sceptre, Refresher, Eye of Skadi, and w.e els you want
man where is dagger....most important item 4 her...so as the BKB and aganim....but rest is ok....
Lothar_3800 Dagger_2150 Dagger is better...
if you have the money, get an aegis using the plate mail or whatever recipe that has plate mail in the requirements. and what if there aren't melee heroes, what item can i replace with the blade mail?
Awesome Guide
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i think, CM must buy, dagger, than lothar....
later aghanim....
it's effective..
but you must clever to paly it...
because hp just 1000-1300 before aghanim..
"this is basically useless can be replaced by a mana potion or 2" ok if u think brilliance is useless and u dont get it why do u say no basilus i thought u didnt get brillinace and btw brilliance is so useful its an unlimited mana potion and u dont have to spend money on it and ur items are off shes an int. hero blade mail wtf they do 100 damage to u u return 20 to them not counting armor reduction by the time blade mail will have an effect u will be dead. eye of skadi owns on her. and btw frostbite, blink, freezing field, frost nova, frost bite, blink hit hit hit *dead*
yes i agree with Firesky on that one. as i have noticed you did not get any kind of mana regen or effective mana gear early game.so it will be really hard to use your spells even with clarity potion cuz it lasta 30 sec so thats a long timea nd you can't aford to wait that long, plus if you have lane partner (which most CM's do because she has great team kill moves) then that means it helps your allies too. i dont get that R.o.B stuff, "NO R.o.B does not stack with it" considering the price, you are making a moderatley big deal out of it, but you don't even get BA until last 4 levels. your reason for not getting BA is not enough IMO. "it can be replaced by clarity potion". no it cant
1. BA does not leave you unable to farm as it does not dispell
2. its free
3. It can help your allies that have mana prolbems, a few STR heroes come to mind *hint hint*
4. You won't haev the time to keep on buying potions.
say you just used ulti with your other spells, that will leave you Mana-less. BA will help you recover very quickly so you can use your other two nukes until your ulti wears off.
i want a powerfull magic
its great..
..but i use s&y in crystal maiden
your strategy may be good but why we must buy windwalk hammer i still don understand
Jesus man, my 4 years old sister can play dota better than you!
its quite good
Uhmmm... Just some comments and suggestions:
You said that don't get basilius but i think u are wrong because the mana regeneration skills (as what ur strategies say) will be applied not until lvl 22 and you really need good mana regeneration because the soul booster adds mana only no regeneration... You can sell it when u reach that point actually for selling is not bad... And also i think the dagon will be uselss becuase rylai has a not so big amount of mana... EoS so she can be named as the Frost Queen with Lich as the King... Rylai has slow movement skill so you use EoS on the enemy then try to run in front of him (the enemy) and whack and whack for in that way it sill be easy to catch and the nova can also be used while running...
no need for int build items.. a BKB is important for this hero..
how about if i get her bloodstone,scepter of divinity boots of travel,dagon or aghanims, and null talisman?
a stupid guide....
blink is the best thing to get on Rylai!!!instead of Frostbite first and then running in; you can simply blink in, freeze, ulti, and thats all you need. Other heroes run, use your nova and enjoy!Its usually one of the first items i aim for!
lol , ring of basillius stack with rylay brillance aura
not bad...
but not great either
why not use lothar's edge?i SAY gET close to the enemy when ur invisible then cast freezing field.
i like putting brilliance aura early at least lvl 1. together with a sobi mask since RoB doesn't stack with brilliance aura in the latest maps you get 83% mana regen. an alternative until you get a void stone. that 83% is enough to spam frost bite. and the thing about the stats is better.. i don't really need it cause if you handle her well, you won't need does stats..
nice windwalk so enemies will not see you channels your ultimate, be careful with stunners that has AOE
haha wild cowgirl.. i like it
You are such am weak person....why? because you don't need to max the frostbite and frostnova early,because rylai has a low mana...and your first item to build is boots of speed,lothar's edge,headress of rejuvenation and aghanims.
i like this WEB!!!
em...... lother's edge
don't agree
em...... lother's edge
don't agree
men, i can suggest on buying kelen's dagger of escape. Blink next to your enemy and use your ulti, and it will be OWNING!!!!


