Break more than just spirits
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Nice work man! Very well layed out strategy. Very detailed and that is what I like to see. 8/10
Since Spiritbreaker is so weak early game, why not spend 1-3 points in stats instead and early by stats boosting items such as branchers or ciclets?
Spiritbreaker is already one of the hardest heroes to work in terms of early game skill selections. NEVER gets stats untill ALL his skills are maxxed otherwise you are in for it! XD But a good idea for other heroes.
charge of darkness at lvl 3?? i dont think so.. i think you can put lvl 1 charge of darkness at lvl 7 then max out empower and greater bash... hmmm.... nice item build...
7/10
hmm.....i normally get SnY first the heart well this is not my kind of build but other then that your conclusion is abit lame lol(thanks to my brain )??? lol anyways
7/10
Tricks and solutions:
Sticky situations:
Target your charge of Darkness at a creep on another lane. This should allow you to ditch your persuer. (If he has impale, try to avoid it and then use your charge). This is VERY useful in the early game. I suggest you continue the charge awhile before you stop (preferably near a detour to your base).
Invisible enemies:
I usually drop a ward between his towers before the attack. Since down the path is the easiest, quickest way to safety, thats usually how they go. Try not to get caught, they will run into the forest if they find this plan out.
If this happens, keep a ward-dropper (can a crow deploy wards? If not get an ally, this could turn it into a gank. I wouldnt know if a crow could be used because my stealth assasin buddies are still wandering how I do it so I've never needed to swap.) in the general direction they run.
If you have any more problems you need help with, feel free to post them as comments. I will get to them.
Explanations and tips:
The HoT is for suvival during a chase.
If your enemy is a nuker/ perma-basher, wait till after he is stunned to activate MoM.
The reason I didn't recommend bashers is because 30 damage for 1 inventory slot is not worth is. And also because you need at least 2 to make a difference.
People/things I would like to thank:
My brain, eyes and fingers for writing this 3 time in one school day
My back for absorbing immense pain.
my PC for its hard work.
People I would like to complain about:
My friend for bieng too cowardly to let me use Barathrum against them to get screenies to post.
Special thanks to:
"Killer cow" strat and its author.
Everyone who didn't write a
Barathrum strat. (too bad I cant say the same about Nevermore-The Shadow Fiend)
hmm... the stat build is lil diff den mine, item sorta way diff... quite a good alternative to play the cow, but i think ur a lil harsh when u said other strats went wrong, their not wrong, just that they focus on a diff method of playing
nice work....a very good guide!!
I would rather get a Vanguard instead of Perseverance at early game (even though its about 500 gold more). But overall, a nice guide.
8.2/10
I agree that my conclusion is a bit lame... I did it cause when I read strats, they look sooo boring that I skip them... I knew people would reply to this conclusion so I decided to see how many OTHER people skip conclusion!
Just a question out of curiosity. when i build my spirit breaker I mask of madness then bashers. Any recomendation to that idea. By the way very detailed strategy and a interesting build style
I thing, beter item for this hero is S&Y. In midd. game ist imba vs. any Lowhp hero. Hit&Run on alone creeping int. heros is ideal. (I like Robin Hood style ;) ). Good items are S&Y, Heart,Black King Bar. you don`t need more... int heros have no chance and many of agility and strenght to. Dont attack Teror with 2 basher and butterlfy :)
cool strat) some thing are damn right)
good strat, smart way to utilize his abilities. i dont agree with getting charge of darkness so ealry but other then that good strat.
i always go sny for this to benefit as much from empowering haste
i agree with radience and treads
i don't get charge of darkness until after ig et the first level of nether strike really. If you want to harrass, greater bash does the job and empowering haste along with treads/boots/ is enough to get away early game. And for you item suggesters, didn't you see the extra slot? he said you can get an extra optioanl item. Sooooo, get SnY if you want to then
oh yeah... S&Y is a must for this guy....
To CIA(bug-guy):
You probably wont need bashers if you have MoM... Your normal greater bash should be enough if your knocking him AWAY from your base... Cranium bashers dont give enough damage but you CAN use them against someone like Skeleton king cause you'll have to kill him twice...
wat da?!!! 4/10
Threads,S&Y,Vanguard,HoT,Radiance= No escape. Linken's if necessary.
I often prefer S&Y before MoM.
Maim is MORE POWERFUL than MoM. Maim + Barathrum's bash are great combos.
I'm impressed by your strat
9.9/10.0, hehe...
manta style good for barathrum?
nice guide man
This is getting bizarre -- here's yet another great guide with only 3 stars. In fact, everyone posting here says how great this guide is, and then gives it a "decent-to-fair" rating. Be generous people! These things take time and energy to write!
n1 10/10
Well, if you get SnY won't it cancel out the MoM [two orb effects]. So you will have to get one or the other. I'd get SnY cuz the Maim is SO helpful and the boost in movement speed adds damage [empowering haste]
It'a always basher VS madness when it comes to bash heroes, no? Nice approach, Using madness instead of SnY. I'd like to see some team strategy in the guide, though. It usually assumes only 1-2 heroes on your attack. I also don't advise initiating Charge of Darkness from a distance, as the buff on the enemy might signal backup if you're too far away. All in all, nice guide. Have another one planned? hehe.
c'mon man MoM is very much better than SnY in terms of atk speed and MS?!?!
i think you should get BoT instead of PT, it ads extra dmg between when you are hitting, 16% of your ms i belive it is, so just max that shit
well nice guide overall 8/10
Hi, i see your point in trying to boost his IAS to make his bash stand out , but unfortunately, i've like to say this strategy is extremely hard to pull off. Firstly, your hp is medicore for a STR based hero, not getting any survivability items is a big hit to you. Maybe bracers? Otherwise, what can happen is, u charge at a DECENT opponent, and 3 seconds later, u find your focused fire to death. As to your skill build , bash is unneccessary until lvl 5 (so at level 6 it complements nether) , and charge of darkness is better off saved till when u need to race across the map later in the game. Empowering haste is your key weapon as lvl 4 empowering haste + Boots of travel is a FREE SACRED RELIC. Untop of that, it gives you teleport and empowering haste helps u to last hit alot better(think of it as a weaver's germinate) . Treads is definitely inferior to that. So i wouldnt rate this guide too highly, as i feel it lacks survivability and waiting for hearts to be completed pretty much sacrificed ur mid game advantage. Imo, spiritbreaker should rush for BOT asap and start ganking around the map. Hes a hero that has natural DPS with an item that any hero who wishes to attain map control buys(boots of travel) and also can be a pseudo-tank (str based) , and a ganker (doh). Extremely versatile hero and only weakness lies in lack of uses in team battles. Thanks for your time.
very good, i'd like 2 try
This guide is just not that hot. Your skill build is all over the place. You say you only upgrade charge once but you have it at level 3 and level 9 before the other two skills are maxed out. Also you advocate NOT attacking against damage return and just standing there with radiance to deal damage. You do realise that you only have a 17% chance to bash (since your build does not include bashers) and that when the bash wears off you will simply be stomped/impaled and your target will escape. You do MORE damage by simply continuing to attack them, and since your build includes a heart I don't think it's likely you'll kill yourself first. Your strat relies too heavily on getting greater bashes exactly when you want them. 4/10
i used the same combo when i used spiritbreaker, unfortunately my opponent knew it and selected atropos, unfortunately, he whooped my ass. can i just ask how can u counter atrpos' skills???
Spiritbreaker is one of my best heroes and i have played him for about a year on and off now, and i find that sny, treads, heart, hyper are the core items, as by late game this hero looses the ability to easily kill heroes and get out of trouble, does anyone have any ideas to make good end game like lvl 20+????
Spiritbreaker is one of my best heroes and i have played him for about a year on and off now, and i find that sny, treads, heart, hyper are the core items, as by late game this hero looses the ability to easily kill heroes and get out of trouble, does anyone have any ideas to make good end game like lvl 20+????
soz about repeat, stupid pc
Atropos eh? I guess he used enfeeble or nightmare and dashed... Exactly what my cousin does... I suggest a BKB... Atropos is relatively low on hp so get him to red without wasting Nstrike... Should be easy since he can't cast spells on you and you have bash... If he panics, kill him... If he stays cool and uses nightmare after BKB(Which shouldn't happen), Use the ward trick and Nstrike... Your ms is better than his... But when its 7second or something, You probably will need a teammate with a stun... If he survives your assault you should scrap MoM for manta or somethin... More Hp, illusions, He wont have mana for nightmare but you should go with BoT with this approach, just in case...
This item build only works in 5vs5... anything less requires this build:
Boots of Travel, Sange and Yasha, Cranium Basher, Cranium Basher, Monkey King Bar, Heart of Tarrasque. MKB and HoT replacable by BKB/Linken's/whatever other item fits to the occasion.
However, the strategy is very nice, good work :)
i can't even breathing when i read the step 4 of attack...nice step but it's funny...
i can't even breathing when i read the step 4 of attack...nice step but it's funny...
Your item build is shuch same as the one I make everytime y play with spiritbreaker. xDD But...take this as and advice... did you know that S&Y can stack with MoM.. of course stack the lifesteal and not the maim.. but why do you need maim if you already are an excelent chaser... In conclusion... if you consider to use both(S&Y and MoM) with the hiperstone... you will have increased attack speed and a little more damage cause of the movement speed add of the S&Y. xDDD
Your item build is shuch same as the one I make everytime y play with spiritbreaker. xDD But...take this as and advice... did you know that S&Y can stack with MoM.. of course stack the lifesteal and not the maim.. but why do you need maim if you already are an excelent chaser... In conclusion... if you consider to use both(S&Y and MoM) with the hiperstone... you will have increased attack speed and a little more damage cause of the movement speed add of the S&Y. xDDD
Good tactic but i make SaY and 2 Cranium basher.
very detailed.. I'll try this.. gave you a 9.
Nice one! I got a basher with spiritbreaker and well, it didn't help so much... but I still won, it was just wasted money
very nice strategy . and the idea for MoM and radience perfect
OMG i love Spiritbreaker, and now that i saw this strat
i got the idea for my build, Power treads, 2 bracers, MoM, MKB & HoT.
a HUGE thankyou for the MoM idea it is soooo good for this guy
I love permabashers. Its soooo funny. I can get permabashing SA - whoops, you lot prob'ly read my guide on that. Anyways, I can demolish BLOODSEEKER with about 500/600 damage a hit with just SA with 250 a hit with permabash. Mask of Madness on Spiritbreaker reeeally early works impossibly well, much more so than SA. I've tryed multiple SB builds, assuming I random or swap him, and the MoM one is the most effective. SnY is obviously something to go for in general, even just for the movespeed. I stack SnY + MoM loads, just for the huuuuge movespeed bonus, screw the orbs. 10% movespeed is sometimes worth the whole 5050 package. Hmm, this guide is worthy of... a 10. You've obviously put a lot of thought into this and added unusual and helpful pieces. Excellent.
barathrum with two bracers, treads and MoM at around level 11-12 is reaaaally dangerous (charge+MoM+greater bash+nether=surekill!). i use this strat once in a while and am usually owning especially against low hp heroes, assuming am able to farm well; i.e. lane opponent doesn't harass you too much or if he's also melee. bad farming = barathrum becomes target practice. trick here is to wait for opponent to pick their heroes first. if most/all are ranged, barathrum isnt a good choice.
Very nice, but I always prefer the S&Y for cow
8/10
I just played a game with SB and used this guide more-or-less (even though I woulda done it anyway) but the thing is, something reeeeally weird happened. I Netherstriked someone, and a guy who was behind me before I Striked got killed by me while this happened. BY ME. NO RADIANCE. NO BATTLEFURY. WHAT THE **** HAPPENED??? Seriously, does Netherstrike splash or something? I only had early game items (treads bracers MoM). How does that work??? Thats INSANE!!!
Hmm... thinking of what shmirra_3 said... and well, I think barathrum is REALLY bugged... My cousin Nstriked a guy who was standing next to a crevice... The strike hit but SB ended up in the crevice!
nice nice... great job
I actually tried out this build and it works great. Nice job.
THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR THIS GUIDE
i used to love barathrum even before i say this strat
now i absolutley poont with him!
i took down a pro naix user with barathrum!
damage return however causes me no problems, with the exception of centaur coz hes a tank but yea
again thanx for the build/strat
i definatley break more than just spirits =D
THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR THIS GUIDE
i used to love barathrum even before i say this strat
now i absolutley poont with him!
i took down a pro naix user with barathrum!
damage return however causes me no problems, with the exception of centaur coz hes a tank but yea
again thanx for the build/strat
i definatley break more than just spirits =D
thanks for your guide...i think i can play better with this hero...
peace!
wahaha nic one^_^
I prefer to get a SnY
Honestly i got first blood easy with sb though i dont get charge i only get greater bash and empowering haste ^^ harass your opponent with your normal wacks ..when theres a greater bash, you can wack a few times(3-4) and your opponent will die ..trust me this works on intel and agi
YOU RULE
hey, chris... api ithamath wasanawanthai, ne? kawuruth thama wenath bashawakin liyala naa...api sinhalen liyamu... hari? un tharaha wenawa... LOL...
Please SHUT UP Lawyer
I can see the moon from here!!!!!
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kAEm, if you can't recognize a good guide, PLEASE FLY!!
Oi chris.. Tho wali tha? enna ko! mama tho ta hondtha paarak dhennam...
@ajames009:
Aney, kata wahagena inna ko bung... Tho ehema kiwwata, ehema kiyuwe tho tharaha wuna nisa, ne? api sinhalen kathakaranne tho wali wennata!
People, please speak in English. That includes you Lawyer.
My apologies, drew. Chris and I were merely doing an experiment... We wanted to see just how many people would attempt to counter something they dont understand with something we dont understand... Hehe, this was merely a childish prank, we apologise to anyone who was annoyed by this.
toink! not bad.. but if you'll face lion you could do nothing!! i have the best strat for lion..
I/we apologize, Drew. We didn't expect it to hurt anyone.
These Strategy is very good.
yo this is nt very good 4 him
sange & yasha,boots of travel, heart,life steal aura,critical,2 radiance
Nice strategy for Barathrum!
I am kind of a shady dude doing sneak attacks that can give your opponent a heart attack!
I give it 8/10!
Well i just started DotA for few days ago, and i just registred on this site. Anyways it's a nice guides that i will use for sure :)
so ownege. no chance at excaping
my new fav hero thanks dude.
@cave man:
I see the point of 485MS (SnY+BoT) but that wont help your survivabilty in attacks... Also your damage lags and the build you gave wont work: Radiance doesnt stack...
And finally:
SnY
BoT
HoT
Vladimirs offering
Buriza-do Kyannon (or crystalis?)
2 Radiance
IS 7 ITEMS!!!
lame lar go eat shit
how about...basher + basher + heart of tarrasque + hyperstone + MKB... it is good for him???
ow i add up BUTTERFLY...
is greater bash completely independent of regular bash so getting dual bashers would be completely useless? o and would it be advisable to get more movespeed items vs. pure damage items ex: battlefury a friend of mine suggested getting BoT and treads for the bonus but tht wouldnt work because they dont stack is it including ur inventory's additional ms or barathrums ms?
by just using treads SandY and mask of madness. you'll be a certified killer.. this cow, born to be a hero killer..
Great guide! I played versus this beast and he kicked my ass a lot!!!
just wanna share how stron this beast is.. I used raigor build with 2Hot, 2 battle fury's, hyperstone, radiance and when I faced barathrum used echoslam, then enchant, 2 normals then fissure it didnt even reached half of his life! then he kicked my ass so easily!!! what a beast!@!!!@#!$#
@jayzee:
If you cant pawn him, use him...
tsk. thanks to this author.
nice guide. even though i didn't use MoM, and replaced it with Assaut Cuirass, damn! this STR-based hero permabashes! :)
You really helped me how to use the charge of darkness. thx.
Wow i Got many Reactions loookk !!!
mr. bathroom turns the f**king world around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow soo many comments!
Well this is a complety diffent build from what i usually play
Early game i get boots Then BoT. I find this is a MUST!!! SB dmg on hit is based on his speed. The higer the speed the less distance you need to charge to get max dmg. Plus he does hit hard but relies on greater bash to prevent runners. My build is a bit expensive but if u can get off to a good start by soloing a lane, and getting around 7-0 by early game then u can afford my build.
1-BoT A MUST!!!!!!
2-HoT Another Must!!!
3-Skadi not a must but if u want to Own hardcore Get this
4-BKB
5-Assault Curiass
6-Linken's Sphere
Try it out trust me it owns!
LOLhttp://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/glad.gif
Glad
WHAT ????? NO S&Y ??? Wtf man sy is way better than mask of madness for this hero since his damge is based on how much speed he has... if u want lifesteal get a vladmir then
THks for this strategy guide. I scored my very first positive kill / death ratio thks to this, with barathrum :)
He's indeed a very good hero killer, able to take on 1 on 1 versus higher level heroes!!
great guide. i gotta say getting MoM and hyperstone instead of bashers works really well. like the author said, u need 2 bashers for them to have any real effect, and since breaker is a slow farm that is quite late in the game... so take MoM / hyperstone earlier for the extra dps AND extra frequency of bashing. 10/10 for the guide, cheers to the author.
can someone explain y bashers arent neede for Spiritbreaker? doesnt it increase the percentage of a bash?
can someone explain y bashers arent needed for Spiritbreaker? doesnt it increase the percentage of a bash?
Hyperstones are greater than Bashers.The succeeding bashers you get will have smaller percentages that's why you should get more attack speed.
Mid Game:
(lv.6-lv.11)
Items:
Complete this now.
Once you have this, you can fight 1v1 and execute the chase spiritbreaker is famous for.
Start Farming for this (If your opponents are high HP heroes, get radiance first).
Once again, the items seem like too much work but since you're useless without them, there is nothing else to do. After Hot, you can attack (see attack)
Your attack is still not foolproof until you have Hyperstone so keep Farming...
Late-mid game(lv.11-16)
Items:
Complete This.
The Radiance is an essential. I choose this over MKB or anything else because the radiance effect will have a lot of time to work (He will be bashed for a long period of time during your attack). If you feel there is a more important item, Get that as your 6th item in the late game.
You can start farming for the optional item. (see late game).
Guide:
For mid game, join in ganks, pick fights and farm a bit more... You really start to get annoying when your attack speed increases. But dont scrap your presence of mind... It will bite back hard.
Now you can start ambushes on int/agi heroes... But for str heroes, complete radiance... Also wait for radiance when fighting anub'arak, centaur warchief and anyone who rushed to take up blademails... You'll need your glow for them (see solutions).
Now you might want to team up with allies. I always team up with clinkz or medusa or some other agi hero because they will have a lot of time to attack duing your bash (I also like clinkz and medusa because they have no nuke skill to steal my kill!!!)
Get someone ready to drop observer wards in the general direction your target will run if you plan on attacking. This is because your chases will be a bit long till your big gun items are all ready and your stats and damage are up...
If you fell you need more exp, dont hide in the forest near your creeps, hoping a target will pop up (honestly I've actually seen people do that!), go out and farm...
After your HoT, you can start an attack. Here's how:
Attack! (this is used throught the game):
Step Action
Step 1: PLAN If he is somewhat close to his tower/ Has a few creeps/ Has an allied hero who can save him somewhat quickly, go to the top of his lane and--Step 3. Otherwise, proceed to step 2.
Step 2: POSITION Find a spot on his side or find a way to get behind him without being detected. Activate MoM. Then attack him. If your bashes aren't coming and he's getting away--step 3
Step 3: CHARGE Use charge of darkness. During the stun, activate Mom if you haven't done so yet. If you still haven't pawned him and he's getting away/ His allies are coming, Use nether strike. If you STILL haven't pawned him and he is getting away, proceed to step 4.
Step 4: YOU This step does not exist. It is impossible for that to happen. Possibilities
•You are VERY unlucky/stupid/didn't follow properly.
•Your PC is screwed up.
•Your opponent is cheating.
•The server is screwed up.
Question:
what if your enemy is nagasiren??
ensnare+mirror image+song of siren=??
she can run away
i'm sorry bcause disturb u with my silly question
anyway good guide 9/10
no,wrong copy
sorry
why no bashers?
wats MoM again?
i think this is one of the best guide(if not the best) for SB. this is almost the same build that i use whenever i use SB, the only difference is that i always max out Empowering Haste and and greater bash at lvl 9 for additional damage, no offense but i think charge of darkness is of little use early on, because using it in chasing enemy hero might lead you ending up in an opponent tower. I also get a vanguard instead of perse.(after purchasing a thread and MoM) for early-mid game survivability(more of a tanker i guess). anywayz juz trying to say my side....overall this is a great guide for an all offense SB... i'll give a 9/10
@lo0lo:
I think you can Nether strike out of net... If not, Things are still going for you...
•She'll do what you said, wasting all her skills just to escape... Depleting her mana and forcing a trip to the fountain... And that is if she doesnt have any powers in cooldown, very unlikely...
•She'll stay and fight... This is okay if you manage to survive with yellow HP... Then when net goes off, run back(Or round and round and round a tower which is what I do) till images disappear and MoM and attack like crazy... Bash will keep her in place and lifesteal will prevent counter attacks...
•If she uses ensnare/ulti to escape:
Activate MoM when its over for movespeed bonus. Chase, Netherstrike when you see her. Attack like crazy, Charge if you must.
@makavelian:
I agree with you on that... But lots of people say they NEED it... It can help you get fron 1 lane to another which you might have to do early on...
@arczarcanium:
Mask of madness:
Mask of death (900G)
Mask of madness scroll(Level 2 shop)(1050G)
@(Movespeed fans):
MS does not INCREASE damage, it increases damage... Difference between Power treads and BoT is only 8 damage and since you get +IAS with treads, it deals more damage...
@(Basher fans):
I explained this in the strat...
THANX FOR FEEDBACK!
i don't know if this is the best way but i play like this: max charge of darkness first get greater bash, after maxing this 2 skills max empowering haste.
itens power treads Sny MoM HoT Linkens Hyperstone or Mkb
I like barathrum. I like cows
Great Guide. I've never tried radiance but i'll try it soon.....
your strat stinks!
I like ur skill build but i prefr S&Y as its gives u maim.... Plz comment on these items. Power treads, S&Y, Heart, 2 Bashers, Hyperstone.. Realy cool just try it out....
I like ur skill build but i prefr S&Y as its gives u maim.... Plz comment on these items. Power treads, S&Y, Heart, 2 Bashers, Hyperstone/ Mask of madness
.. Realy cool just try it out....
hey ny1. i want 2 noe if S&Y and Mask of Madness stack>>>>> plz reply if u can to bala_raven@hotmail.com or just post here
this is good... BUT! you could add yasha in the items if you want since it's not an orb effect item. It'll give you extra speed and extra damage because of empowering haste
I like your strategy and have followed parts of it with great success. The only thing that I'd change/add is that it is very possible to kill at level 6 with nothing more than boots/ring of regen (which is what I got). I didn't use any spells so I had full mana and was up against a solo troll warlord. I saw that he had just ulted and had taken my tower down by 50%, so I backed up a bit and charged towards him, stunning him, and got a bash a few hits in, which worried him because I was near my tower. He started to run and I nethered - having level 3 bash, he didn't stand a chance.
I did it again twice (admittedly he wasn't that bright); it's all about figuring out when they are vulnerable and seizing the moment.
Hey, this is exactly what i do for Barathrum, people always say get S&Y which annoys me because Hyperstone is a cheaper and generally a better alternative. Awesome guide 10/10
BoT and S&Y?? It's hard to pawn other heros without an IAS bonus even with S&Y unless you gank and use nether as an opener. In which case any item will do. Your dmg bonus from haste and cancellation from g.bash will be put to good use by having IAS items such as pt and hyperstone. I prefer bracers, threads, hyper~cuirass, bkb & mkb or lifesteal items. I haven't tried it with manta but I figure It'll own if you can manage to squeeze it in between the cuirass right after hyperstone coz that purge will definitley kick as. In which case you'll be using a vlad for lifesteal. After getting the cuirass and vlad you'll be able to take down brad but do not get stunned twice. S&Y in the otherhand is just.. whack.
As for MoM well I don't use it.The dmg taken scares me. Hyper after pt is better and safer for me.
As for bashers.. they cancel out greater bash right? or is it the other way around. Oh well
Can charge of darkness still detect invis heros? If it does, charge SA while farming and let your amigos gank him. make sure you do it from afar to give them time to pawn. And nether can push an enemy to your side of the gank like swap. I think you should've included this to your guide.
All in all nice guide mr.lawyer sir
In addition I think haste skill should be the priority. You'll be needing that dmg bonus once you get your pt. + 61 dmg at lvl 4 I think.
*sorry for the add-on post
lol, I keep meeting a troll warlord on the top lane. Every time results in him dying, usually more than three times. It never gets old for some reason =S
The lame thing is that whenever I get breaker, people quit. I can't be THAT good...
Super build .. GJ i always do as clockwork what u say in this guid and u have to be a complete morron not to own with BARA..Super super strat..i never thought that u could replace S&Y with treads and MoM it's super(cheapper and better in my opinion) GJ!!! 10/10
You can Netherstrike outta Ensnare but you are still Ensnared for the remaining duration. You just happen to inflict a Greater Bash on them.
Hmm, randomed SB, got 5-0 then died to Clinkz with Rapier and %^&*ing creep block. 5-1. Three kills later, I have 1 Sentry Ward and a Rapier. 5 minutes later, 12-1, GG. People can maul heroes with SB with no items worth a damn, but items help a lot.
I already gave this 10/10.
i just won with this. gj
I personally adore Barathrum for his haste
He is fast killer to be reckoned with!!!
My build for him:
Battlefury,Satanic,HoT,BoT,SangeYasha
,CraniumBasher.
With the speed and haste ownage this hero cud actually deliver great stuns over &over again.....
this strategy is great!!
i win many match with it...thx
buy MASK OF MADNESS first before perse.Good strat for the rest.
why should you waste time and let the radiance do the damage.. you already bought MoM.. lifeleech and let spiked carapace and blademail damage you.. you would earn the hp dealt by lifeleeching
BATHROOM!!!,
Just joking
Great job on this guide
8/10
To get his haste working well, u should rather get him BoT for maximising speed.
MoM+PT>SnY+BoT
MoM+PT gives more damage output since the damage difference between the two is so low that the IAS makes the big difference.
Very good build...I have used this hero many times witht his build...also adding in a linken.. and perhaps anotehr heart later game.
Barathrum is my fav hero and i have used many starts on him b4.Ur strat is rather nice but i have a few questions. 1) why not get a SNY instead of a MOM? (it increases both ur att and movment speed. Movememnt speed is terribly important to BARA) 2) I think that instead of a Perseverance maybe u can choose to get crytalis for critical as well. based on my personal experience. Bara should target a agi or int hero at lv 6 - 11. He has a high percentage chance of killing Agi and INT based on their hp pool and this will greatly prove beneficial for him as he will be able to buy more stuff. My build for bara is to get Movment speed and Att speed stuff and critical and high dmg stff. This will allow him to kill in late game as well.
PS : i havent tried radiance yet. But i Think its a good idea. 8/10 !! Great Work !
I have difficulty in fighting Butcler...my friend used hook, dismember, and then rot on me simultaneously. As a result, my barathrum almost died...How can I win over him?
K... One thing they added in 6.46b- If he has a manta style, the illusions get bonus attack speed from haste AND can bash. I think to replace any of your items with this would be good- I've used it, and its like tripling your attack speed in terms of # of bashes, since each image can bash. Pure pwnage. I also like to charge from across the map, in a couple of instances. Sometimes they don't realize it, and its even better when I'm like halfway across the map, they are in the process of raping one of my teammates, and the icon scares them off, thus preventing a kill. its also good because you can see targeted invis heroes until the charge is over.
personally, i would get boots of travel/s&y to stack the movement speed bonus. when haste is maxed, its 60 extra damage - a free sacred relic. boots of travel would help when chasing so you can get the double kill - charge the 1st hero, wack his ass, maybe get a bash or two, then nether strike the hero that comes to 'save' him. this is really easy to do cause if you get BoT first, i've found that he owns early allowing you to farm for late game items (heart/hyperstone) this also allows yout o buy extra items - wards etc. for your team if you're going up against rikimaru/broodmother etc.
Someone try this build and rate it :
Battlefury,SangeYasha,PowerTreads,
Basher, Heart_Tarraque, MkB.
You cud easily get any int-/ranged agile hero especially in mid.
Just Charge of darkness from 2nd tower from base and see the long Stun+Greater Bash+Maim+Mkb bonus+Bash-->enemy runs away+Netherstrike=Suresjot kill.
Charge of Darkness is Barathrum's Takedown on target.Just like an angry bull
try to ensure that Charge distance is long enough so that the charge received is level 4
charge not level 2/1.
You cud see this near aura and status condition tab indicating
'Charge of Darkness lvl-??'
17-0 sb is too fun:)
Start with 2 bracers and powerthreads. By mid game you should have Sange and yasha and vladimir's offering. By then you will be unstoppable. If the game pushes through, buy HoT and hyperstone. Pure ownage!
Possible add a Basillus, S&Y, or BKB
I found it really helped
ur right brza is great 4 him a couple of bashes and a crti or two is enough 4 most opponents.
not counting netherstrike ofcource.
the escapig part in using chrge of darkness nakes me confuseT_T
very nice lolz
not a bad guide but i suggest you get threads bracers sny assault for the inc attk speed then maybe some bashers to finish it off
You must have a radiance. Method:
Attack till you get a bash. Wait till he is recovering before attaccking again. Thereby minimizing attacks and letting your Radiance do the damage. (You may chhose to buy a diffusal blade for the purge as your 6th item)
k i have no idea what u mean i mean y would u wait till they recover b4 attackign again.
radiacne still works evne if your attacking.
other then this good guide 9/10
i don't know why this guide doesn't have sny at all. sny is the core item for batathrum. why? haste + ms bonus from sny = 424 ms.. you will be faster than most of the heroes and you will be chasing them easily. it doesn't only give damage but stats as well, hp, armor, and attack speed bonus. maim is also perfect as when it triggers, you won't be chasing your enemy that long. MOM is not that good. why? because it makes barathrum vulnerable to attacks of other players. Once you become the focus of fire, you're dead. vlads is much better as it gives armor making you tougher so you can take on 2 or 3 at a time.
hhehehe
i wouldnt farm for a hyperstone, but go for sange and yasha, since it gives attack speed AND movement speed, so you can have more damage, hyperstone is optional for me during the late game when I use barathrum. more chances to bash.
Not to bad....haha...i love spiritbreaker...the best hero i used almost a year n i play bara most of the time especially big matches...i feel tat S&Y would be better in term of giving more movement&attack speed n as well as more hitpoint n armour. I experiment many different items build includin urs n all got it pros n cons...Now My item builds is
Early builds:
Power treads
2x bracers
Ring of health
Mid game:
S&Y
dependin on situation:HOT or BASHER...basher is to 1v1 OR HOT to stay alive if oppenent always aim at u
late game:
if i get BASHER at mid than HOT is next or another basher depending in the game
than if i got 2 basher than my last item should be HOT
pls give me comment for my items builds....thz
i personal don think radiance is a good deal.
Since my item got Power tread n S&Y i don think i need hyperstone
i should be fast enough to stay in the game n maybe godlike most heros
Great strat!!! just so you know hes one of my favorite heroes now!
is boots of travel affects barathrums movements speed for how many?.... 385 something?...
I wondered how would i use spirit breaker to kill Phantom Assassin? because PA has alot of high crits at late game.
yo Uregay...Spiritbreaker should win PA in late or early game...
cos PA is weak in Early game but strong in LAte games...but late game Spiritbreaker is oso very strong.TO win PA ,u need Basher n Hyperstone ..PA hate strong basher.. especially spiritbreaker .sure lose unless PA items is more godlike than u...haha...that mine opinion ..hah feel free to give back ur answer
i play SB regularly my build is
Empowering Haste
Greater bash switch off till lvl 6 then get Nether strike then continue to max out EH and GB then at 11 get lvl 2 NS
after EH and BG are maxed get charge of darkness and max that out switching with stats =GG
Items
early game get
-boots and some tangos
-then Power treads then get vanguard so u can take more hits since u are melee take more dmg
then get Sange and Yasha then assualt curiass=attack speed armor get buriza b/c u will be owning by this time so save for that =GG
Then switch to BOT.
Charge em attack and ult if and when they start to run and u got em ^_^
i just went a game 16-1 10 min ago with my build
id suggest u start a gank at 6 to an int or agi hero to start your money u should win lol
i think its mainly a hero killing build its good for farming b/c u will start 2 shooting all creeps anyways
lol also pick up a Bracer before or when your going for treads it helps ^_^
10/10 man thats the greatest strat i saw on this site. im always pawning everyone!
Assault Cuirass = leet. Played 3 games with him today, had a friend with me. He helped me get ac within the 15min mark and treads as well. I went 12-1 rest of the game. Not to mention soloing rosh twice.
Nice work man! I just tryed it. Damn i ownd so hard!!
haha very good, well explained! Good job dude!
9/10 for me. its better if u used pctures to explain it more clearly. Good!
Very good guide but i prefer
power treads
Vanguard
Cranium Basher
Radiance
anyways your guide is pretty good
My personal late game build for this guy would be
boots of travel for speed
battlefury for the push and regen
butterfly for the dps and dodge
butterfly for the dps
satanic for the health regeneration
cranium basher to enable perma bash
works extremely great in seriously dropping and killing all heroes. Surprisingly this is a better assassin than nerubian assassin.
Empowering haste becomes rigged with fast attack speed and damage per second. I would have to agree that it's armor piercing.
I go straight speed attack and dps with 2 butterflies.
@girlpower4ever
do u get 2 butterflys with every1? lol =p
a butterfly on SB is 30 dmg and 60 attk speed bonus. why not get mkb instead =p since the butterflys (if u ask me ) best feature is its evasion
wow this is pretty good! i suggest final build:
Radiance
HoT
(NO DUH!)
BFury
S&Y (i agree,no bots
)
Assault Cuirass (WOOT,RAPED!)
Buriza/HoT/MoM/HoM(dunno,u might need $)
Overall, ns job! awesome strat. id say 99.5%! GJ!
nice strategy MOM works if you dont plan of buying S&Y, why perseverance, but it later, like cuiras it is a must
What if im up against lycanthrope?
Wouldnt i need a different build?
If yes, what?
I realy hate this stupid noob hero. he hits you --> permabash and death. That's stupid. Perfect way to ruin 2v2 APOM game... Perfect way to add leavers to your games when permabash = death.
STUPID PERMABASH
Great strat
Honestly, This hero + Any other hero with stun is Imba. Take Alchemest for example. Alchemist starts channeling stun, You use ulti for greater bash, Alche throws for 5 second stun, if by some chance they're still alive then use charge. Or it can work other way aswell. Charge first, Alche stun, then ulti if he escapes.
Honestly, This hero + Any other hero with stun is Imba. Take Alchemest for example. Alchemist starts channeling stun, You use ulti for greater bash, Alche throws for 5 second stun, if by some chance they're still alive then use charge. Or it can work other way aswell. Charge first, Alche stun, then ulti if he escapes.
bathroom sux...
i just kill bathroom so crazy..
the way to defeat bathroom is easy...
gangbang bathroom with all the stunner..
bathroom cannot escape..
lycanthrope can kill bathroom..
or bring ogre magi...
so when he do CoD..
just attack thorow the stun stufff..
bathroom is f*cka for me..
no c**k against my balanar..
always using bash..
BATHROOM SUXX
bathroom is f*cka for me..
no c**k against my balanar..
always using bash..
BATHROOM SUXX
Using Battle fury is very good but butterfly seems useless for Spirit breaker is STR Type, basher is better and upgrade hyperstone into assault cuirass. Buriza is also great but for me i'll use SnY.
Its fairly ok BUT if you haven't read the second move. The faster you are the more bonus damage you do. I think you should get, Battlefurry, Assault Curiass, Boots of Travel, Heart, (Vlads,Crits, MKB) S&Y.
Please try that build and tell me the outcome ouch.
Punak@ur team won coz they noob! :p usually pro hero counter barathum with butterfly,blink,lothar,guinsoo..
Very decent strategy for, imo, the best endgame hero.
OK....nice strat but using MOM in a team battle is suicide!!...itll work great to take one hero at a time though!!!
Frankly speaking, I find your items slightly questionable.
Firstly, SB is a very bad farmer and if you're up against some real good players, SB is up in trouble without items.
You were right he required some items early game and I couldn't deny that probably in 6.49, he would do well with a STR powertreads.
Unless you're running a solo game, I couldnt see behind the reason for MoM. Firstly, SB would be suffering for his extremely low armor. Yes, imagine a typical basher versus basher situation. The low armor will result in early ganks. You are food for the stuns-ganks.
Either fighting for an early chainmail to make cuirass later, or a dominator for that little boost in armor.
A battlefury, or a desolator would be essential to cut them down.
Also, mom doesnt work to a STR hero's benefit in an extremely late game. You could always use a dominator upgrade to satanic.
If you're working towards radiance, then radiance should come first (if you're not getting battlefury). SB got no creep control skills, the greater bash only good on single targets.
Since DoTA is a team game, and even if you died 20 times you can still win in a team game by destroying the "throne", there is importance to counter-push.
Unless you can decimate enemy heroes in early ganks, zero creep control is bad for teams.
Well, good try and nice stats builds. I will give a 9/10 for the effort in the guide. (-1 for the items only)
Does all attack speed STACK???
you know 50% (treads) + 50% (hyperstone) and 75% (MOM)??
Jus checking if it actually stacks for 175%
I have been playing Barathrum for a long time now and have tried many builds and different strategies throughout that time. I found that the beginning of your build is fantastic and I use it as the basic template for my sb build. But my true success with this character came when I decided to get mom instead of heart right after mom and then turn it into an assault cuirass. The armour enables me to attack and kill any character that the opposing team has and take the damage they can inflict. Due to the fact that the build already gives you a bit of health steal you can have a ton of endurance and a great amount of killing ability. The game never lasts long after I get the cuirass. But simply a bit of input. This is a good build nontheless. Sb kills all.
IMO, level 1 charge, at level 3 is quite useless. Look, if you are using it for harassing, it is quite useless since it only stuns for 1 sec, and its mana cost is 120 at all levels. It is too much for any str hero. You will not get the voidstone that early anyway. I agree.
I suggest to make treads, 2-3 bracers, and MoM for early build.
Also, voidstone is quite expensive early game. It will not increase your farming capability. And IMO, Barathrum's skills are not those spammable such as Storm Bolts, etc.
GJ anyway!
Cheers~
In my previous comment i made a mistake writing that i would get mom right after mom...oops
What i ment to say was get hyperstone right after mom and then make it into assault cuirass. Sorry about the comfusion.
u should buy a sange and yasha for more movespeed, slow (maim), attack speed and dmg/hp.... but its very good work i will maybe try it because spiritbreaker is my favourite
and then i always use charge to stun and dmg them down in low hp while theyre stunned and then when theyre fleeing i use Nstrike and then i just pwn!!!!!!!..
thats also a good idea and then vladmirs offring is a good item too i pwned with it
u should also take these skills
1.empowering haste
2 charge
3. empowering haste
4. charge
5.empowering haste
6. Nstrike
7. empowering haste
8. charge
9. charge
10. knockback
11. Nstrike
12. knockback
13. knockback
14. knockback
.15. stats
16. Nstrike
17-25. stats
just what works for me.
I've seen a lot of people questioning the use of mom on this thread, bringing up sb's inability to farm well and also stating that i doesnt help with kills. Well once you get mom you will be able to farm well because of mom. It gives you enough health steal along with your perserverance and a boosted attack speed with very little cooldown to kill the neutral creeps quickly and attain gold. Because of your natural bash the increased attack speed helps to keep the enemy completely imobilized so that when they finally get a chance to do anything it is inevitable too late.
IVE NEVER USED BARA BUT I'LL THINK I'LL BE OK USING THIS 9/10
where is the damage of the resultso of enpowering haste show?
lousy.....
i used this guide when i first used spiritbreaker and got beyond godlike. Good Job!
not much though...
by the ways tnx for the strat....
5/10
Getting HoT along with the other items by level 11 is ridiculous, it would mean that you have to have farmed about 11k gold, which is not happening.
The build that I find works well for me with Barathrum:
Power Treads
SnY
MKB
HoT
HoT
HoT
Also,
Instead of leaving Charge of Darkness at level 1 or 2 until after Greater Bash is maxed, leave Bash at level 2 and max Charge first. The longer stun from a higher level Charge ends up letting you deal more damage while they're stunned than an extra 25/50 damage on Bash.
OK guide though, 7/10.
Butterfly is an essential item in late games. 60% attack speed makes almost permanant g. bash and the 30% evasion prevents permabashes. u only loses 30 dmag, if u r not agi hero
very nice strat but you fail to mention the godly sange and yasha combo.
my item build:
power tr
SnY
Heart
SR
Radiance
u should get S and Y and maybe get a maim wen he flees that could be step 4!
good hero...
i think ou meant btm for sentinel and top for scourge. but great guide sill 9/10
What would u do if you are fighting agianst jahkral and he is using double cranium and he gets the first bash, would u try to attack him or try to run away?
great guide, helped me a lot
Boots of Travel works better with SB because of the 16% Speed Damage and I've never gotten HoT for this hero, I usually just stick to Satanic because it helps recover wayyyy faster for me. I get
BoT, SnY (But usually trade it for something more useful late game, as this is an early-mid game item, not so useful late game, I'd go for Radiance or Buriza late game), Battlefury, Satanic, MKB, Hyperstone (again, late game i trade for Curiass just cuz for more protection). Btw, I very much enjoy playing with SB cuz it becomes a skating rink (for enemy) when hes played well =) ;)
Boots of Travel works better with SB because of the 16% Speed Damage and I've never gotten HoT for this hero, I usually just stick to Satanic because it helps recover wayyyy faster for me. I get
BoT, SnY (But usually trade it for something more useful late game, as this is an early-mid game item, not so useful late game, I'd go for Radiance or Buriza late game), Battlefury, Satanic, MKB, Hyperstone (again, late game i trade for Curiass just cuz for more protection). Btw, I very much enjoy playing with SB cuz it becomes a skating rink (for enemy) when hes played well =) ;)
Watch out for Gondar if ur Barathrum Aye...
Nice Strategy Man..
@tiebreak
you must be mad... barathrum without his greater bash makes him worthless. It has a 17% chance to do 100 bonus damamge. + it works estremely well with nether strike. There's no need to add charge of darkness early since it'll be used as more of an escape tool. Not really for attacking. That'll be during the late game. Otherwise, nether+bash, that already ends the chase for whoever you're chasing after
My item build=
1.Power Treads
2.S&Y
3.Cranium Basher
4.Cranium Basher
5.Vladmir's Offering
6.Assault Cuirass
If you get that items, you won't die and you will be a perma-basher.
Thank... i really like this toon BUT with this strat i should beable to pwn more than ever
Just wanna know the bonus damage from empowering haste will show up in this hero status bar??
add sang-yash...and so Yasha...to improve empowering haste
hi... nice strats, your point of view is exactly similar as mine :D
i always maximized haste and bash early... and have tried several builds and their resulting in different type of barathrum :D ... soloist,tanker,godlike.
well.. i think i have to test out your item builds.. it looks promising :)
IMO, the turned point for barathrum is when he get an IAS items.. i would say it begin when it have power treads... continue to Hyperstone...BoT and so on.. :D
S&Y is good also.. but i don't satisfied with it... no reason.
i also have tried butterfly.. and got nearly a perma-bash... awesome :D
my favourite hero ever :D hueehehe
u made this strat very very long....
but anyway, funny ending
I think you should get the boots of travel and a Hand of Midas early on. The boots have more ms and therefore more dmg. The hand of midas has a 30% AS increase and a transmute to make sweet money. Other than that really good strat 8.5/10.
With two bash and power treads there is no way to escepe this ultimate hero.
try nd get a divine rapier nd a buriza
nd watch ur critical cross 1000...
who needs nether strike ...
he'll be dead before u can sctivate it...
also if ur Barathrum has a good attack speed ... GODLIKE !!!
how do you calculate the damage and bash ratings? sorry i am new to this forum!
great work though. figured how my friend owned me in 1v1. haha.
how do you calculate the damage and bash ratings? sorry i am new to this forum!
great work though. figured how my friend owned me in 1v1. haha.
I will build AS and MS + Dagger + Greater Bash =shock him until opponent cannot move or use skill.Izzit great?pls ask for anyone who got heart attack Bfore start the game:2 avoid u kill some1(real ppl)
hmmm, i think empowering should be maxed first. then CoD. but I always have one point in bash so the ulti isnt useless. And sange&yasha is the best orbeffect to bara.
6/10
Wow, now this is a GREAT STRATEGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly wat i need!!! tnx!!!!!!!!!!!!
Radiance mid game??? Man aint that askig for too much out of Barathrum??? The guy can own but early game to mid game money is really hard come by
OMG nice :D
what if ur tackling a high hp hero like leviathan or bradwarden? and i think empowering haste and bash should be maxed out first. Then only charge of darkness. Coz charge doesnt really help in early game. I mean if you wanna make a quick escape why not buy lothars or kelens or something like that. But a really nice strat! 10/10!
i like....
ur StuPid!!!!
i Will Build MJOLNIR and I WILL BUY MYSTIC STAFF ASSHOLE
-EIREE-
... my oldest and most favourite character to complete own a game... and my buiold is half yours.
And stats build..
I think I'm dumber reading this...


