Lucy-chaos machine!
Created by Lord_of_Draenor on 2007-03-19
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Your item builds are fine (Although i simply dislike battlefury, but its a personal preference thing) .
Your emphasis was spot on that doom is a farm farm farm hero (devour ftw!) and i greatly respect that.
I personally feel that devour's potentian is maxed when u devour a creep with a wink of health left (abuse the obscene cd). Also by gettig midas(i am obsessed with this item omg:X) your farming will sky rocket - 'nuff said.
And after reading your "Every agi/int hero is food" , i can't help but feel thats a statement thats slighty too bold. Since you can only doom one hero at a time(and i do not think you can catch a "solo" hero very often), it would be wonderful if you provide strats for a 2 v 2 or 1 v 2 situation.
Guess rating your strat after you make a few changes prior to this initial one would be nice =)
Regards
Respect
Nice Strat Lord_Of_Draenor
I Love Devour
+40 Gold Everytime It Cooldown
XD
Nice farming guide.Though I could say this, it is lacking in some things. Doom can be casted THROUGH Naix' Rage. And I think it goes the same for Repel.
I could also say that Permastunners are Luci's worst....and i mean WORST enemies. DO NOT go into a fight with Barathrum,Jahrakal,Darkterror or Slardar.
or even Naix with a permastun build.
They.Will.Pwn.Luci's.Big.Fat.@$$
nice guide....but i feel Lucy needs more armor-assault cuiras mebbe...twas aegis afore...and since he cant do much late game-also feel buriza is good for him since he has good aspd in the fire.
Negative point is DeathKnight's shield removes doom...this is not a prob in -LM mode but sucky for -AP.
I buy a dagon!!!! its the best
cast doom lvl death dagon and lvl death and oponent must be death !!! :D :D
Well, you said go for the ranged creep, wouldn't it be easier just to kill the melee creeps first and then just devour the ranger creep a lone?
Sorry for double post, but i need to add something.
the items are a little bit expensive for me. Devour will help, but I don't think it will do THAT much. The guide itself was good tho :). You've convinced me to try him out. Is this guide assuming that your team will have the upper hand? Meh, Lv? Death sorta sux at level 25 because you can't multiply the damage
the fundimental problem with lucy is the fact that he can't keep the guy from running away. if the player is smart, he will reserve enough health to make sure your lvlD does not kill him. and when your chasing him, you are entirely presuming that your BoT will be enough to hunt him down. anyone with SnY + BoS has enough speed to easily escape lucy. other than Tiny, lucy was the first hero i actualy started trying to master, after a few tries, i gave up because there was no way to execute the finishing blow on the hero if your abilities are on cooldown.
I've never really liked Lucifer but I really like your strat. It moves me to try out the lug more often.
Hmmm interesting comment Panda. I can say that I've not had your problem, perhaps because of the way I build Lucy.
Heart is good, and so is BoT i suppose, but before those items I get treads and SnY you say are allowing the enemy to escape. I think its a matter of using scorched earth effectively. I believe there may be a misconception of how this skill works.
With scorched earth, the moment you touch the burning ground, you gain ias + ims that lasts as a buff on you even after you ran out of the circle of fire. I cast it once in mid river and was able to outrun a hero who was approx at the scourge side gnoll area to reach my target and Lv? him as he was entering Scourge base in mid. To top it off, i was wearing only a Boots of Speed and SnY (ie not even treads). It is hella effective.
I think the ias ims lasts about 10-15 seconds (will have to test it out) after running out of the fire. I can say for sure that a BoT + Scorched Earth Doom can catch up to almost anything.
Doom's Base ms is 300 +90(BoT)
Scorched Earth gives +30%
390 x 130% = 507 ms.
Now consider this:
Lucy MS 300 +65 (treads)
+ SnY bonus 15%MS
+ SE bonus 30%MS
= 365 x 145%
= 529.25
Now isnt the game's max ms 540? In inner circles, my and my buds call Lucy "the lamborgini" everytime he runs by on screen. Now you know why.
This is a good guide to Doom. I don't play him much, but I've randomed him a few times and hes fairly easy to use, bar your allies feeding the other team so they overpower you (bad experience yesterday). One thing about Devour is that it gives them line-of-sight. So you need to be careful not to Devour a neutral creep when they're hunting people. That idea and the fact that it also hides any buffs you may have (cough rupture)makes me feel much safer devouring a creep with red health (yes, cooldown abuse once more). I dunno about maxing Devour first instead of lvl Death, I always like having a nuke. A good guide, for those people wondering about 1v2 and 2v2 situations with Doom, if this happens frequently invest in an early Refresher Orb. Buh bye, I give YOU a 10/10 for a sweet and well planned guide to DOOOOOOM.
Nice guide for a spellcaster doom. Covers all the vital points. But I usually stick to the battle doom (w/manta style!) and all my enemies go OMG!
I dont think Doom has any great IAS or ASPD to boast about.
HIs Agi gain is 11 + 0.9
Which is.. horribly ridiculous:X
30% IAS just makes him average IAS hero.
@player13
like i said, it was when i was starting out. i still feel that speed is a problem and in this guide, even with scorched earth, you only gain faster movement speed for about a sec or 2 out of fire. what if enemy at half health and doom on cooldown and all you have is LVLD left (assuming late game)? he gets away.
my dream build for this hero would have to be BoT, SnY, 2xBashers, Butterfly, and . covers speed issues, slowing issues, and slow attk speed issues. that makes lucy quite the hero killer.
Great idea if animal courier is purchased!Stay out in the lane,farm and farm and kill,you'll be a milllionaire!!!When you are about to die,forget about lucifer,just get your chicken to buy the items before you die!!
nice strat.. juz wanna comment that one hero that can realli piss off lucy is levithan~ kraken shell can remove doom.. n levithan's got high hp.. together wif gush to reduce lucy's already v low armor.. wif a cool ulti-stun~ problematic for lucy even in early game~
nice strat.. juz wanna comment that one hero that can realli piss off lucy is levithan~ kraken shell can remove doom.. n levithan's got high hp.. together wif gush to reduce lucy's already v low armor.. wif a cool ulti-stun~ problematic for lucy even in early game~
This is an ok strat.
But going for battle fury i strongly disagree.
Ull have no cleaveattack since doom is a ranged hero(!) he had a range on 150, which makes fury allmost useless! Get your soulbooster, your radiance, and youll farm tight!
Good job making this strat!
@ Panda = Doom=permabasher? What the hell... didn't everyone just comment on his AMAZING attack speed? Why give him an Agility build...???
Score:10/10
If you cast doom on enemy heroes,will you gain sight on that enemy hero?
@Rupture
No you won't, its not like Slardar's Amplify Damage or etc. Although I wish it was, just watch your opponent go scrambling to their doom, and you've got front row seats
. And I think the MAx speed is 522. Unless it was raised on 6.42.
Sorry for double post, but the guide sorta emphasized that Doom would be a finisher, which it is. But what about when Lucy is attacking? If you doom soneone, all they have to do is just go to fountain to heal up, and you no have ulti anymore. Or something that really pissess me off was one time i doomed someone, and they B.o.T-ed right to their tower. ARGH!
[By attacking I meant late game attacking enemy base]
@Transfat
now it's triple post.
and when they used BoT or town portal, use lvl death since it has a mini stun or buy MKB, since MKB is also a good item for late game doom since it has increased damage and aspd.
@ Smeagol
fury has effect on doom and it gives lucy CLEAVING attack. he is a melee hero not a ranged one.
I barely ever use doom - this guide may convince me to try it out. Questions for you:
1) Can you eat a tree when doomed? How about the regen rune?
2) Someone said that doom turns off lifesteal. Is this true?
3) Do you get experience when you devour something? If not, wouldn't it be better to save off devouring until it's at a high enough skill level to give you $$$ instead of $?
That's all. I can definitely vouch for seeing other people do what this guide illustrates, so you've made a believer outta me.
I didn't kno Lv?D had mini stun...that would come in very useful at times.
@panda
nice item build... that would go well with anyone with ias boosters, and certainly with Doom. I wouldnt knock his Attack speed. Although its no comparison to troll and the like, +30% ias is pretty decent. Which goes back to how i feel Scorched is way underappreciated.
talking about slows n stuff.. kinda makes me think, as a tanking build, if Diff blade would be helpful on him... helps chasing for 1, and lategame 3x tank = more tank.
I agree w u panda, he's not a real chasing hero. But repeatedly casting SE while chasing has helped me easily catch up to enemies in many circumstances, and should not be assumed as ineffective because of the 1/2 second casting time.
STRATEGY RANK: MONSTER KILL. I love this guide, quite excellent for a first try.
Ei even Naix is in rage still the doom will still be casted at him and the damage will still occur same as omni knight the doom will still be casted
@GreedyGoodd
you cant eat tree because ur silenced by doom and regen rune will be stop becuase doom is damaging hp so rune will be stopped healing.
Life steal will not be turned off.
nice guide i'm not a noob anymore
Need an ASPD item... Lvl? death is not that spammable cause 8 second cooldown is not enough... I dunno.. I feel that 1 doom and lvl death once every 8 seconds is not good enough since most players will opt for HP increasing items after seeing that you've picked lucifer... I also wouldnt scrap hero hunting for pushing, wheres the fun in that?
Hehe...
@Transfat
An enemy doomed cannot use BoT....why did u say dat he used teleboots while doomed??????
Good Guide....At last someone made a lucy guide about devour...
i'm sorry
i want to ask something
if u use refresher
does doom will be refresh again??
that's mean u can use doom 2x
is that true
Try to devour the low-HP creeps because then the cooldwon refrehses faster. Especially when you are alone. You can get 2creeps/wave if you time it well (devour can instakill) and it gives you a lot more gold. Also, note that if you devour a creep, you will be seen by the enemy side if it was an enemy creep.
ALL I CAN SAY IS C
L...
@ Shimrra_3
i hope you were being sarcastic cause lucy has HORRID attk speed. my build turns him into a fast disabler that just comes out and rapes. since he is a str hero, he will have high health so no worries about getting a heart.
@ Envoker
life steal will be turned off if you are Naix. for him, its a special ability. dooming a naix is very effective cause he suddenly looses ALOT of speed, has no lifedrain, AND can't slow you and run. Doom is the longest silence in the game. if there is a nuker that i face which i am kinda afraid of (lina w/ refresher), i will cast doom first and hunt her down. with my build, thats entirely possible. in team games, silencing casters like necrolyte in the middle of a team battle will surely save your buddies life.
@panda
i don't think that naix's lifesteal will be turned off by doom
Love the strat mate the only diiferance i would make is to get aghamins b4 u get heart cause the damage u get after with doom is off the hook...........but great start tho.
@lo0lo
yes refresher can refresh doom and all his other skills but you can't use it twice on the same person(well, you can but the damage will be the same as you used only one doom on that hero)
on 5 on 5 or 4 on 4 battles, and when your enemy has 2 or more nukers, it's also good to buy refresher to doom both nukers making team battles a piece of cake.
nice strat... but why scepter
@Panda
Nice on all that "stuff". But doom is not the longest silence in the game. I can think of a certain Blood Thirsty Character that can silence longer than that...
yes strygwyr's silence is longer, but it gives +80% damage.... that's why it is not recommended for silencing uses..
Omg very similar strat 2 me i love it
( i normally make them rage quit with this) THIS GUY CANT WIN AGIANST ZUES until lvl 6... But still VRY anoying
Dude, like, your strategy rocks...farming paradise indeed...nice hero kills , whoaaah yeah....though i do have a question:Since Lucy here doesn't have any stunning skills, what items can be used for stunning if you're using this guy??(sorry, I'm a bit new to this hero
)
hmm, wad about leviathan/tide hunter..
i think it has the 2nd skill ti buff away the negative spells on him..
will it work on doom??
@spitafex69: Because circa 6.4x series, Doom is amplified by the scepter.
@Greedygood: Items are disabled after doom, so not even town portals will spare you. Haven't tried a test of faith rescue though. no one really uses it for ally heroes.
Also I believe lifesteal (even Item lifesteal) shuts down while doomed. It would be nice for a confirm/deny though.
How about rushing for LVL?Death as soon as you can?If you assume that the rate of your LV growth is the same as your opponent:
1.LVL?Death
2.Devour/Scorched Earth
3.LVL?Death
4.LVL?Death(Bonus damage as it is a multiple of 4)
5.Devour/Scorched Earth
6.LVL?Death(Bonus damage as it is a multiple of 3)
If the opponent is an AGI/INT type hero,500 damage is a lot to them at LV 6.Get your doom at LV 7 intead.
4 me it is better 2 get 2 battle furies...coz it gives great splash and with some good team hero as magna he can kill all enemies....take second battle in change of radiance....but nice build
I've only started playin Lucy 2 days ago, and got a score of about 11 / 5 with him on my first try, w/o guide
now w the guide....
i'm gonna maybe try tonight. The devour is awesome for farmin.. i got HoT by lvl 9 as my first item after boots
lekkerrrrr man i'm lovin it. o well tnx 4 the good guide make 4 more heroes plz
Doom is unfair! Why isn't Venomancer's Poison nova like it? I like Lucifer but I like Venomancer better. Anyway, where's the S&Y?
hmm.....zzz well doom is more off a kill early tank late hero^^ lvl death at level 7 is 500 damage and you can doom which is usually a sure kill even if your opponent with max health for agi and intel hero only.....usually i get BoT bf 3 heart and agahims.... pure tanker ^^ during late overall a okok strat 7/10!!!
hmm.....zzz well doom is more off a kill early tank late hero^^ lvl death at level 7 is 500 damage and you can doom which is usually a sure kill even if your opponent with max health for agi and intel hero only.....usually i get BoT bf 3 heart and agahims.... pure tanker ^^ during late overall a okok strat 7/10!!!
Great! So the hero that can kill Lucifer is Naix. Well, I've never thought of that. By the way, thanks
SnY is a gud item for him, unless u have other items in mind in slowing the enemy.. it can also boost ur movement speed as well as ur attack speed.. ryt!?! but gud start!!!
doom goes through repel idiot
@karfreak
S&Y is big NO!!!
Devour bonus gold works only if Lucifer kills the creep or works even if your creeps kill it?
good..this is very useful
@Liger
It seems to me that you don't know how Devour works yet. It puts the creep literally inside the Doombringer and when you click on Doombringer it shows regular stuff blah blah blah but it also shows a creep icon and its health being slowly depleted, your creeps can't kill the devoured creep.
I've got a Reaver and a Vit Booster when i was level 10... It was a 4 on 4 match w/ my friends...
Ok.. Dont flame me i know im an idiot.. But i cant understand lvl?death's level range or whatever it is.. Can someone tell me? Oh and wath is PermaBash?
At first on doom ArcaneRing or aghanimscepter which is good????????
hey nice guide, btw I also tried to do a heavy farming and it paid of!!! I go for a divine rapier instead of a radiance!!!!! COOL!!!
can someone tell me how the lvl? death works? i mean if a lvl 4 lvl? death wif a mulitiple of 3 , will do extra dmg to those of lvl 3 , 6 , 9 , 12 , 15 , 18 , 21 , 24???
can someone tell me how the lvl? death works? i mean if a lvl 4 lvl? death wif a mulitiple of 3 , will do extra dmg to those of lvl 3 , 6 , 9 , 12 , 15 , 18 , 21 , 24???
Lucifer - The Doom Bringer
Range: 150 | Move Speed: 300
Primary: STR
Str: 26 + 3.2 | Agi: 11 + 0.9 | Int: 16 + 2.1
Damage: 53 – 69 | HP: 644 | Mana: 208
HP Regen: 1.03 | Mana Regen: 0.65
Attack Speed: 1.51 | Armor: 3
I lucy ranged or meele then?
i dont buy refresher orb, substitute it for a damage item
How about Hand of Midas for Lucy? Devour one creep, Midas another and secure 2 creep kills every wave. Tons of cash to afford other things.
pretty good guide, i just tried it but the only thing that might need improvement is armour. you have very low armour bonus but still great guide.
@chris35
hes melee.
Very good guide
tried lucy for first time today and was 8 and 2
two heroes that i found difficulty with were an omni and avernous because of their double slow
Very good guide but for me, it's ok not to buy Refresher Orb but instead, I will buy another Heart of Tarrasque.
i usually go solo with ring of basilus and a tree, lvl death(when right lvl) + doom kills like 75% of heros at lvl six, then after i kill i go to secret shop to buy void stone or ring of or both for perserverance, go back and lvl death them again, always works.
lol @ refresher orb, unless u plan to use that against multiple heroes, getting that item is stupid. lol, u can only use the ulti once per hero. they dont stack :P
Any1 can tell mi whether Doom can silence the passive skills of opp? If so naix is dead mince meat...
If omni cast repel and u cast doom on him, will he get the effects of doom?
Oh yeah, doesnt bf even further slows down his ASPD? His animation is like juming b4 atking.
I seriously think that a all farmer DB should go for HoM oso, u can clear 3 creeps if used nicely with devour
By the way, Lord_of_Draenor, do u mind adding in the doom skill's damage/s, mana cost and cd for afgh sceptor equiped...thks
battle fury- brilliant
adding 2 my previous comment, i dissagree with respect. For when i played my friends who are all noobs or beginners as Lord_of_Draenor (the creater of this guide) likes 2 call them. once i got battlefury i waz invincible
Does doom prevent enemies from using items? And is it really true that lvl has a minor stun effect???
Radiance much better than battlefury.. specially when chasing. Godlike build = Radiance+BoT+Aghanim+HoT
i would just like to say, please check your grammar and spelling before posting... and please don't shorten any words... it's confusing...
Add abadon hes not gonna die in any situation. he has barrowed time the doom will debuff soon as the skill activates
. and also my best partner is blood seeker doom+rupture harvest him to death.
another thing ...... i give 10/10
@ReSpEcT
" personally feel that devour's potentian is maxed when u devour a creep with a wink of health left (abuse the obscene cd)."
Actually it doesn't even matter that much. Lets look at Devour shall we?
Devour
Swallows an enemy unit for a short period of time, digesting it and dealing 20 damage per second. Each level decreases the cooldown and mana cost and gives bonus gold when the devoured unit is killed.
Level 1 - Gives 10 bonus gold, can only devour enemy creeps or non-ancient neutral creeps that are no higher than level 1.
Level 2 - Gives 20 bonus gold, can only devour enemy creeps or non-ancient neutral creeps that are no higher than level 2.
Level 3 - Gives 30 bonus gold, and can only devour enemy creeps or non-ancient neutral creeps that are no higher than l
Level 4 - Gives 40 bonus gold, and can only devour enemy creeps or non-ancient neutral creeps that are no higher than level 6.
Mana Cost: 50/ 45/ 40/ 35
Cooldown: 30/ 25/ 20/ 15
^^^notice the CD of 15 sec at level 4. If you devour when the creep is in red health youre gonna wait like 10-12 seconds anyway to devour the next one. The maximum health you can do to constantly devour creeps is when the creep is at 300 health. 15 seconds*20 hp per second is 300 hp. I prefer to devour a creep in yellow health because it gives no chance for the opponent to deny it and you still dont waste time.
no no to battle fury! Lucifer's a ranged hero... 150 =S
my friend was complainin dat doom breaks thru naix's rage ... does it ???
I can kill lucifer wid those items wid my ultimate razor.... :) peace men...
My Own Build for Lucy:
BoT
S&Y
Vlads
Basher
Hyperstone
HoT
Owning....
Great guide for a great hero, keep it up
Plz do not get both Battlefury & Radiance
You are better off getting Radiance only.
Battlefury is wasted with Radiance immolation
U cud make Refresher only if u have
multiple opponents Doomed same time.
Otherwise even making Aghanims is not required.
Get Satanic instead and perhaps Dagon to finish.
If u are rich get this build:
Tarrasque,Satanic
Dagon,Aghanim
Powertreads,Linken's
Just calulate the gold reqd 4 all
first.
GREEDISGOOD!!!!
Vladmir's,HoMidas,BoT,Tarrasque,Battlefury,
Satanic.
Faster and cheaper build
Very nice gudie good item bulid.
Have u though of midas for a taking farming further plus the attack speed is good later.
Nice bulid anyway
9/10
This guide is abit short but i like the item bulid. Just like mine expect i get a HoM instead of refresher.
still good guide
7/10
@shaman_nick
hello is doom with this bulid (devour,bf and radicnce) this is like the best famrer in the game so money is no problem if u rush rad for farming u can have it in 12 minutes (my best)
Can You use hand of midas on lucifer??
u should use tango instead of pots
get 2 null talismans for early game...
aaa for extra-farmer doomy buy hand of midas
you will have a lot of $$ for imba items
..but avoid also permabashers, and especially magina with twin bashers
tanx for the strategy....cos o love this one...
My best inventory on Lucy were:
Dagon,Tarrasque,SangeYasha,Radiance,
Linkens,PowerTreads.
I own like hell with this build.
Aghanims and refresher are not required since they take too long to farm and also
damage after making Sceptre is minor as compared to one shot Dagon lvl 1/5.
Some heroes cud also remove buffs like Medusa and its better to make sure kill is confirmed so I keep firing Dagon and LvlDeath till the enemy has no Linkens and Hp then Doom him and use scorrtched earth to do some damage if possible with radiance also.
When I stop the chase ,kill is ensured.
I think your ideal strategy is fine, but in my opinion i think the scepter is more important than the heart of T, casue to kill heros for gold faster u should hab a good ulti dmg. i mean dude 100 dmg for 18 secs with scepter THATS OWNAGE, other than that ur strat is my new strat GOOD GOING I LOVE THIS BABY
dont go against anti mage i think:S
you should get only level 2 of ur lvl death early game because an enemy hero in ur lane
will get to lvl 5 w/c is perfect for d lvl death in lvl for it deals bonus damage
the item build is perfect. i like the way that lucifer is both nuker and battle type hero.
Man i love Lucifer and thanks to your Guide to making stuff....I'm in a clan......thanks alot dude i really owe you one....your the best
now the lvl? death is multiplied at lvl 25 as well, Luci is all the mre dangerous. Good guide, i suggest getting only onle lvl death if against a soloing hero. He will reach lvl 6 fast, and that will send him back to the fountain, and unable to outlevel you and/ or your lane partner. I like fury on Luci as well. Question, if you doom the same person twice in a row, do they take double damage?
I like your build and I have no problem with it the devour ftw is an awesome way to gain money and a free last "hit" XD but..... my build is battlefury, bot, sny, heart PERFECT XD bf= farming bot= ms = ms and att.spd heart= SURVIVABILITY XD and if I can a refresher orb o.o but w.e XD I like your guide and build better than mine though XD
fuck u bro
this strategy is fuked its maybe for noobs i got beyond godlike with this guy i should know and u never get devour it has no point his atk dmg is enough 2 get creeps +battle fury???
get fked all he needs is BoT heart aghanims and radiance
Nice strat!
Tho I would seriously consider using satanic instead of refresher orb. Especially when facin str heroes...
This strategy ROX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nothing special
Ey uys, can u give me some tips on how to get rid of ranged enemies in the early game? Im sorta havin trouble with that...
the battle fury slows down the attack cooldown(which is a necessity), and he looks stupid!
ccccccooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this rocks..
wat that`s good u do very much!!!!!
I played Lucifer for the first time following your item build and won the game with no deaths at 9-0 after only 35 minutes. A+
Pretty nice strategy, except that I think Radiance is not so nice of an item to get. You are unable to chase most of the heroes, unless you get other things like guinsoo or Escape Dagger, which can give you a second or third chance of casting LVL? Death. If you get dagger, it is also cheap, and you are able to get other things as well, it is also a very good escaping tool, especially on many against many battles, you aint gonna be able to win against all the heroes, say 4-5. with dagger, it mite just work for him as both escape/chase tool, very nice.
good point, cloudyui. I like radiance, but that works too.
Abaddon May kill him.Hehe
^_^
Alfie
would casting doom twice using refresher orb stack up?
nice guide =D
nice build, just replace radiance with battle fury and see lucy jumps while attacking
good guide
Posted by craigvampyro
2007-03-19
Nice farming guide.Though I could say this, it is lacking in some things. Doom can be casted THROUGH Naix' Rage. And I think it goes the same for Repel.
I could also say that Permastunners are Luci's worst....and i mean WORST enemies. DO NOT go into a fight with Barathrum,Jahrakal,Darkterror or Slardar.
or even Naix with a permastun build.
They.Will.Pwn.Luci's.Big.Fat.@$$
about what you're saying, if you tested it, doom's doom actually cancels out stunners/ passive skills. overall nice guide
alot of ppl dont realise this BUT... get Hand Of Midas for doom.. its good investment early game... devour plus that killing creep eqauls $$$ it realy is worth it coz it also gives u attack speed which doom needs 2 become insane in his scortched earth
good guide tho iv used doom 2wice and iv owned with him each time but i never thot about getting BF.. il try that thx mate!
Nice item and skill build. But...I dont think all of us can farm until this good. At most we can only get 2-3 of the items in your item build, but not all :/ 8/10
good strategy!
Two words. Kickass strategy
lucifer eats ww'ers for breakfast :)
IF you rly expect ppl to farm those items that fast, than you are a noob at dota and you shouldn be makin guides. No body in the world can farm boots, ror, persaverence, and a hammer by lvl 10.
And a travel, fury, heart by mid game? haha you are crazy
thanks ur a legend, thanks to u i love lucifer now!!!
The ppl always look for a stunner hero or even try to make all heroes perma bashers to get a kill, but when u get experienced u´ll see that perma bash and stunners are so gay, make a kill of a hero that can even move cause of the stun it´s so boring, it`s more funny to get lots of kills with lucy.
i used to cast SE in front of the enemy when he comes to engage, to ensure he starts to take damage before come to hit me, adding radiance damage and some hits u can easily get his HP down faster, and he will run scared when u cast doom and lvl?d on him, and u will always can chase/damage him with SE to ensure a kill
very nice hybrid hero don´t forget that he´s a str hero but i think he focus more on his spells
i used to get BoT, Radiance, Guinsoo, Aghanims... maybe a HoT but just with that would be so funny to play Lucy... oh and a hand of midas in early game will ensure LOTS of money with devour too
Very nice strat
+10
YOU'RE SO ANNOYING!!!................................WEAK!!
doom reminds me of a Shattershpere's song..NO GOD TO SAVE U NOW RAAAAAAAAAAAR!
Okay...I think this is a good GUIDE
I try this and my enemy is tiny I follow this guide and this was so great...I kill tiny at level 10..I follow the item build, skill build and all.....
doom is good for our health
There is one big mistake in your item build. Lucifer's armor is far too low. When I was lanaya Templar Assasin, I had Desolator + Meld = -14 armor. I jsut needed 5 hits to kill Lucifer who had exactly this item build.
So, what we need is a Assault Curiass instead of Aghaims!
Nice strategy and a very decent build for Lucifer. Keep up the good work!
Great strategy, but Scorched Earth is really a very good skill if used correctly, you might explain it in a other section so that people can skip it if they want to.
Good Job!!!
ahh..a self oriented strat..abandoning you allies and go for the farm..i'm not that kind of attitude..i usually support my team..b'coz dota is all about teamwork and strategy/technique..
that was a nice strat though, good job buddy..
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I recommend Midas for farming and giving him a decent IAS.
ayus lng
u r doin good with the guide but i think u should change the radiance with s&y coz u allready have the battlefury's cleaving attack..
s&y make doombringer move super fast
the doom's ms 300+90 (BoT) x 40% (s&y + scorched earth) = 546. whoaaah!!!!! he is run like hell..
if u on a 1vs1 battle, change the refresher with satanic or buriza.. u don't have to cast doom twice on one enemy at same time coz it don't stack
s&y is stack with BoT. who say not????
scorched earth should be 2nd in skills so y can heal AND damage other then start attacking then use death to kill him if hes on low hp or send him back to his base
well to get a herokill
srry to comment again but another enemy is
any1 with really high hp and damage and armor
the only really bad thing about this game, is that you actually put s&y + bot in the same build, luci gets the highest movement speed possible with bot and scortched earth, so there is no need for the extra movement speed, its only a wasted orb effect really...
ganda.............
@brosstan. hehe.. i think u r right
now i would change the s&y with a mkb
my item build 4 lucy:
(1). powerthread
(2). HoT
(3). battle fury
(4). satanic
(5). MKB / buriza-do-kyanon
(6). aghanim's scepter
instead of refresher i get another heart try it
one hell of a guide
One thing nice guide but you are noob for thinking doom can use battlefury.His range is 150 not melee dumass.
Great guide... Though I don't understand why you get refresher orb? I mean... The only long cooldown ability is doom. But why on earth would you needa double cast doom?? Anyway, yea, refresher orb is 90% impossible to achieve anyway. Your items are a tad bit too pricey too... Even for excellent farmers,like me
, it's still pretty hard, I find that I can't build Aghanims before the game ends. 8/10 for your guide
Great guide... Though I don't understand why you get refresher orb? I mean... The only long cooldown ability is doom. But why on earth would you needa double cast doom?? Anyway, yea, refresher orb is 90% impossible to achieve anyway. Your items are a tad bit too pricey too... Even for excellent farmers,like me
, it's still pretty hard, I find that I can't build Aghanims before the game ends. 8/10 for your guide
i do not think refresher is a good option you can go for satanic or assault
lvl death with extra dmg 500+rf+500 again cause of rf then+1120 from doom or more with scepter lol thats like 2k+ dmg
panget dpat my burisa! 525!
@ malicef: lucy can use battlefury because he is melee, the 150 range just means he has 150 units or distance of melee. if you see something for example xxx range, don't assume immediately that the hero is a ranged unit.
btw when using battlefury on lucy the attack animation looks stupid, it's as if he's stepping on an insect or something lol
good strategy but it is generally not so easy to farm
u dont get so gud items so fast even in em
pretty good items but you want devour lvl 1 then everything else.
can i use mkb instead of radiance..?
can i use mkb instead of radiance..?
Lucifer should only be used as a tank midd to late game..
BoT, BF and 4 hearts!
Hard to kill with your build. No slow, stun. I suggest dagon or shiva's guard.
Get Skadi
Battlefury works, but it looks like he starts dancing
lucifer with aghanims for what?and the first f*ckin' skill that you have to improve is LVL death!
this is the real one
1.LVL DEATH
2.scorched earth
3.LVL death
4.Scorched earth
5.LVL death
6.DOOM
7.LVL death
8.scorched earth
9.stats
10.scorched earth
11-19.stats
then the rest is devour
OKay!
nice build...i use it a lot now...but why would u buy the mith hammer?...ur only going to be selling it again lol
Very good strat, 10/10, but I think Scorched Earth is pretty useful early game when you need to run away. I also think tidehunter can take doom down because he can remove negative buffs.
Aganims is not whorthy . it was whe nit delt 120 dps but now it does 100 dps. i start with 2 perceverance and It rocks. lvl death gives me many kills cause icount on the opponents level. i use the perceverence to make battle fury and lincens sphere. Bot and heart also help. Add Assault Cuirass
wat does really aghnim scepter improves???
what? no synergy with silencer? doom is a 14-second silence! throw a "curse of the silent" for 1 of tose seconds and you have a fucking ridiculous dps nuke. If you both give him a couple of good wacks, you cant take even the mightiest str hero down with little to no damage done to you and NO chance of escape
Maybe you could add Strygwyr-The bloodseeker to your list of good allies because usually when you cast doom on your enemy he will start running sooner or later and thats where the bloodseekers' rupture comes in handy use it on your opponent and he will surely die since he has to run to his fountain to heal but can't teleport so he has to run and the more he runs the more damage he gets from rupture.
Sorry about double post but wat i was writing(typing) was to long.Some of you may say that 2 ulti on 1 hero is too much but some heroes with high hp can tough out your doom as well as heroes with spell reduction or basically anyone with HoD
Lord of Avernus counters Doom. When Doom brings him under 400 health Borrowed time will automatically trigger (even with Doom's silence) and remove the most serious debuff (obviously doom). And aphotic shield + spamming death coil on doomed ally will most probably save him. He might be able to outfight you too so you have to spam devour to get pro items before he does.
good 1.Lucifer can farm 1 battle fury and a bracer in 20 minutes if only using devour in early game.Kill fast enough to march 2 godlike.worst enemies is actually ezzalor cause ezzalor farm 20 times faster than him !!!!
this is good but vangard will be useful when there are spammers,nukers and strenght heros around so you should include vangaurd in your strategy.


