Bring the Pandamonium!
Created by asdfjjj on 2007-03-12
Last modified: 2007-03-30
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Cool, I'm dying to try out new heroes...
Thx for the tip
finally a panda guide, GJ GJ !! its easy to understand, good elaboration on panda skills, especially primal split which is often misleading, plus it gives additional info for newbs about creep blocking. GJ man 9.5/10
Hey How About Using One Of The 6.42 Items !
BloodStone And Assault Currias Are Great ITEMS ! As Well as The Other One ( Forgot the Name )
10/10
Finally panda guide :)
I played 2 games yesterday , and in bought i randomed panda lol. Problem was i still didn't have enough mana for my ulti :(
But i think i am just gonna take ur sugestion and get RoR and few nulls rest is great ty :D
good stuff. but it would seem your early game would be vunerable. your spedning about 2150 + 7100 before you start killing.
I was in the middle of a panda guide but I think I will stop now. Panda is actually an easy hero to use. To own all you do is buy Boots of Travel Satanic then 4 hearts. Nuff Said.
Awsome. Nice screenies but maybe show how to use clap =p Very nice though. 8/10
Yo , extremely informative guide on how to fully utilise his ultimate which is -imo- the hardest thing to do with panda. I still have a few queries w.r.t to his ultimate however,
1) How should u micro the 3 pandas? Like which one first followed by which... etc
And also annother problem i feel i frequently face is
2) Inability to farm skadi, because skadi comes in big bulky items , are there any alternatives builds? like massing bracers?
Finally very nice screenies;) made this whole strat lively!
Regards
Respect
Hi (--,)
ahm its an very good guide on the panda men.. but the items i used for my panda is first S&Y,battle fury for good farming then the Hart, its realy easy to farm with the battle fury and skadi is so expensive
Nice guide, I like your detailed descriptions of panda's ult. However I think 6.42 stuffed up your item build a bit, esp. with regards to the Aegis :P
I don't think any new item is worth considering for panda
Let some1 else get curias
pandas are so fucking cute
pandas are so fucking cute
Nice guide
.Now i'm dying to try out this hero...
thq
tried it
it takes some gettin used 2, but its a real nice guide, i went crazy a few times..never had enuff mana 4 the triple combo, tele-stomp-ult
aye, thanks for comments everyone.
Please, do not post saying "omg i get this or that and i get THIS and i own its so simple" becuase I honestly do not care. Feel free to create your own guide, its free!
For everybody who says that I should check out the new items: I have, and none are quite worth buying for panda. These are all very nice items, but none of crucial value to panda. They would just delay getting the core items.
kAEm: The Aegis is out I suppose.... And the new spell resistance recipe isn't quite worth it for the panda.
ReSpEcT: Tyty, i'll be editing the guide to reflect this. Pretty much you would want to group all of the pandas, and order an attack on somebody. Then you would tab to either the earth panda for offense, and the air panda for escape. The chicken is intended to fix the ultimate orb problem, and, played right, panda hardly ever dies so you should have no problem farming them.
DaTruYugo: The mana problem is what skadi is intended to fix. Early game you can get a null or two so that you can clap blink clap, but skadi should give you enough mana for pretty much anything.
jake-the-mus: uhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm no. Sorry, but this build will not be effective. By the end of the game you will have about 500 mana; this is not sufficient for anything. Massing hearts and a satanic would let you tank, and nothing else. If you would like to sit there, sponge up damage, and kill nobody, by all means have fun! [no attack speed, no means of chasing, hardly any damage, etc]
Thanks everybody.
No damage? Lmao. 4 X 35 Damage = What +140 damage? Plus satanic witch is 25 = Hmmmm +165 damage? Then stats. Dude late game with 4 hearts, BoT and Satanic you don't need mana you only have to use 1 skill by that stage. And TC IS your slow..? You don't need a skadi its an incredible waste of money. Beleive me if you have tried a simple build like that then he is UNSTOPPABLE late game.
Creep Blocking finally the right way
i know now how to block creeps thank you
Alas!!! Someone with the same build for panda as mine!!! EoS!!! SIMPLY PERFECT!!! 10/10!!!
Good strategy... 9/10
I like it, Only tjhing is you have SnY on the opicture when u dont inclued in youer build, but hey, Good ideas :P
@jake-the-mus
HONESTLY. Is this a joke? How on earth will you farm for 4 heats and a satanic? Are you mad? and for 5500x4=22,000 gold, 140 damage is absolute CRAP. Factor in the satanic, +6k, and you have a core item build that costs 28, 000. (not including consumables, travel, etc)
Please, Jake_the_mus, create your own panda guide and elaborate on this build. Kindly explain how you would farm that much in a standard -em time frame, with panda, a poor farmer. Please explain how you can down a 1700 hp hero (if you can farm 4 hearts, it would be at the stage of the game with everyone lvl 25, so 1700 hp is meager) with 240 damage hits and only a 4 second slow. Don't forget that the enemy probably has a stun or a slow of his own, or other means of escape. The 17% slow from drunken haze does not allow you to chase anything. Also explain how skadi is an incredible waste of money, why you would only be using one skill at that stage.
Please create your own guide explaining this, rather than clog my guide's comments with foolish suggestions such as your own.
Thank you for your cooperation. No, I will not test this build out in any game, even a public game, because I realize that I will subject myself to early game feeding and a boring late game.
Everybody else, thanks for commenting! Also kindly express your opinion on this situation.
nice guide and feature with 4 pandas moving
Just to join in the party..@ jake-the-mus
If i were to see a panda with 4 hearts.. i'll just ignore him and kill ur whole team before killing u... And trust me, if a panda can farm 4 hearts, a alchemist can farm
mkb radiance buriza deso
in that same amount of time frame and if u still say u're gonna win, all i can say is "gl hf".
Oh even if u ARE in a EM game.. its gonna take u forever to farm 28k . Maybe u can ask u r opponents to open farm fest DOTA wherebby the rules are that no engagement is allowed until the 100 min mark.. whow;)
Wow! the guide was so good and very helpful...Thnx!!!!!
good strat..., how 'bout 2Xcranium basher + MoM?
Ok, I will elaborate but this is my last time commenting. I don't mean that you can farm 4 hearts im just saying that's what you should aim for. As my friend says just "buy BoT and Satanic and just fill up on hearts" If you DO manage to farm all that gold then good for you and you will have over 6k health, so I doubt anyone will be touching you.
Finally! A guide for Mangix! I've tried him out a few times before and found him quite fn to use but never used him to his full potential. Nice guide, really informative, especially on Split.
i think curias is just an item for greedisgood and -rich games..in short- THE TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY for THE PANDAREN BREWMAMSTER- 2300+1400+650+200 = 6350 gold.. he he.. and by the way nwnc, pandaren is not a new hero
Cheers
I was wondering if there will ever be a guide for Pandaren!!!This is very clear and not complicated.
Good guide, i am a panda lover since 6.19 version
=)
wow this is great 10/10
i just went 16-2 with this guide
everyone thought i was a pro
but i am a total noob with this guy
Great Job asdfjjj
Nice...But for the items i get like...hmm....a power tread,2 null talisman(mana)Battlefury/sange and yasha,Heart of tarrasque,Blink dagger,aeges and a divine....You can replace the sange/battlefury for skadi though....Nice!!
XD
Panda is one of my favorite hero. Although his ulti is hassle to use and too short, it's a life saver and can be the best hero killing mechanism if used properly which needs practice.
We coincide in most item builds, especially Vlad, Thread and Skadi. I get Tarrasque last or as replacement for Vanguard, but I never tried Dagger and MKB yet. It's hard to get all your high end items during late game, even Skadi is hard to build on 5on5. But Skadi is way better than S&Y. Why take chances for S&Y maim when you can get 100% slow and nice stat boost from Skadi? Anyways, nice guide, especially the animated Primal pandas above
nice build but da better bild is cirtical, satanic, heart,butterfly and blink strike
Wht is the dagger for?ANd what do u mean by tap H in the noob section?
Salzoris:
You didn't read the guide at all did you
It is for blinking (duh?)
Salzoris:
You didn't read the guide at all did you
It is for blinking (duh?)
items pretty good and build good
Cool guide,perfectly explained item build and all that for an amazing hero...Panda really pwns and it's a shame he's so underused
I KNOW IT COULD BLINK BUT WHY?
Very nice guid !!!
Could you put videos or replay on youtube , i would like to see how you play panda
~,~ but 1 things fer certain u wont have enuff mana unless till end game or 1 orb
not bad, not bad at all 7/10
does the orb effect still effect even you split?
I think the items Panda is equipped are temporarily canceled or overridden by Primal Split. Look at Storm Panda above, no item equipped but just 2 columns of some sort of ancient writing whatchamacallit. The 3 Primal Pandas have awesome stats and skill equipped already so use it before time runs out.
Salzoris blink is for escaping and clap/blink/clap combo ... i think
I think treadz,s n y,mkb,radience(evasion),battle fury n heart is great for panda...
Excellent guide. The only "flaw" I can think of is that you´ll be a little exposed early game against hunters/disablers... though if you´re careful you shouldn´t have a problem. Thumbs up.
if i were u, i will just buy 2 bashers and 1 battle fury..dont waste ur mana on kellens.. ur just wasting time, money, and mana.. no offense but ur not thinking stupidhead!!
yohanpogi: Go away. Nobody wants to hear this. Look in guide conclusion so that i can prove you wrong. Thank you for your cooperation.
You are not thinking....stupidhead.
PLEASE, work with me here people.
Nice guide. Good point of choosing a skadi over sny. Will try this out soon
nice one
the tip works
Hmmm, I am not very sure if you actually need a aegis unless you get it from roshan.
Not many people look at the Panda as a good hero. I tried this stategy out a couple times and it works great. Once the Panda has that Skadi, it nearly impossible to kill him 1v1. The only thing I would change would be Kelens because it seems a waste of money. I prefer going for that Skadi right away to make a sure victory.
Awesome strat dude i like it
get 2 bracers with treads early on u can actually start hunting most of the agi n intel heroes
vanguard or presevarance will do u no harm as well
what item to get to solve the litle mana pool that panda has?
I tested it and it works properly.Excellent! But i'll advise Perseverance. This will solve mana problems.
how about using radiance?? 40 dmg/sec it can help u farm and also hurts ur enemy(s) wen ur chasing them when they are escaping
that BoT, satanic, and hearts build won't cut it. you can't catch up to anyone, you've got low attack speed, you're just meat in the frontline soaking up the damage. nice guide, especially on how to use the three pandas
I don't care what those noobs say i think this is a great panda guide..well rounded and effective...
(by the way the guy who said BoT,Satanic and 4 Hot for panda should be impaled! what a noob!
pretty good panda guide...
good job on getting blink.. blink-clap owns.. how ever... you may want to add SnY as a possible replacement for skadi when you're having a hard time... skadi is obviously better but SnY is so muh easier to farm than skadi.
Cool guide bro.
I'll try this.
I THINK 2 BRACER AND YaS PANDA CAN BE A KILLER IN MID GAME.THEN MKB AND BURIZZA IF U DON'T NEED TO BE A TANKER. OR AN ASSAULT CURIAS....
ashthi 2 ! ! !
this hero does'nt nid a item
astig po build mo
Good guide for my favorite hero, with this guide he will "Bring PANDAmonium!"
Very nice job, complete with details and all. I tip my hat to you. But come on Z0mG Y00 NO0B13 I g3T D1V1n3 R4p13R 4ND I 0WN J00!!!! This guy must be pro.
i like 2 hearts so if they get even close to killing you you can use ult and then comes the...........TRIPLE KIILLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree w/ eyefury. S&Y is cheaper than skadi. I know that skadi is more useful than S&Y. But you can get S&Y first then replace it with Skadi if you bought it.
And Battle Fury is a good item too. It gives you 6hp/sec and has 150% mana regen. It makes you farm faster in order you to buy Skadi and replace it to Battle Fury.
Peace. Just sharing my ideas.
I agree w/ eyefury. S&Y is cheaper than skadi. I know that skadi is more useful than S&Y. But you can get S&Y first then replace it with Skadi if you bought it.
And Battle Fury is a good item too. It gives you 6hp/sec and has 150% mana regen. It makes you farm faster in order you to buy Skadi and replace it to Battle Fury.
Peace. Just sharing my ideas.
I agree w/ eyefury. S&Y is cheaper than skadi. I know that skadi is more useful than S&Y. But you can get S&Y first then replace it with Skadi if you bought it.
And Battle Fury is a good item too. It gives you 6hp/sec and has 150% mana regen. It makes you farm faster in order you to buy Skadi and replace it to Battle Fury.
Peace. Just sharing my ideas.
am I did'nt notice. sory for 3x posting
wut about battlefury
wut about battlefury
wut about battlefury
AZTIG GUIDE BRO ill try it out l8er
and kill em oll lolz
Thx 4 the build man and BTW Vladmir's offering's aura (lifesteal) CAN'T affect the holder so i think u should do Mask of Madness (BTW dis is my 1st comment n my account is onli 1/2 day old)
I like the build very much. Just pwned a game with it substituting 2 bracers for vanguard which I prefer to do for the +stats for mana, hp, and dmg.
I was under he impression that burzia/bfly stack with his drunken brawler skill, if this is true, why not get them every time, perhaps not bfly always, but definately burzia?
good guide but fot the item build get
chicken
power treads
KDoE
EoS
heart
and a MANTA STYLE think about it. ult then manta for each one = 3 of each panda =9 pandas with mana burn.OH and one more thing get linkens sphere or vanguard after power treads
IM DONE!!!!!
OK im gone
neat guide! pandaren is my best hero so trust me, this is an even freakingly monster build. early game, i usually bring clarities/ basilius because of mana need for lvl 1-2 kill (with another hero of course) but on mid to end games, those items are well worth every penny. Great suggestion on the Vladimirs. I always end a game without lifesteal and I'd like to try it on Mangix
For your build plus the details on micro managing the primal split(a.k.a Power Rangers)
G-G-G-GODLIKE!
very pro, very pro indeed...
just 1 thing, i get SnY instead of skadi
otherwise a good guide.
9/10
ur panda wont be able to survive early game for such a build lol, if u tink of killin wif those amt of mana, hw would u escape if u manage 2 kill n u hav 2 run?n ppl is so gona pwn u b4 u even complete ur skadi........i giv u a 6/10
WOW dude i just played panda and i was 10 - 0 i had skadi, treads, heart blink dagger, and picked up a leaver item battlefury. I wanted to get more stuff but had no time b4 it ended :( anyway AWESOME strat dude thx for making it :D
realy good strategy man!I like really panta but i prefer ulti for about 15 sec not only 10
bloodycatylist:
how are u gonna use manta style once you have gone into his ulti considering that your items disappear for the duration of it?
Very effective builds (item and skill) overall... as if I know how to use all the Primal Pandas, but you seem to know, and you've detailed it nicely. Good comebacks on nasty comments I SHOULDA TRIED THAT ON MY TECHIES GUIDE YES? Well. I looked at all your guides for a last-minute grudge and your Viper and Mortred are about 40-50% lame (I commented, go look if you dare), but this one makes up for them because I'll be damned if anyone else has made a Panda guide this good. I don't even like Panda and I still know this is good because I see all the details, AND, FINALLY, I saw Panda get a Quad in a 4v1 after the other side had killed all his allies, with simply Skadi - your build emphasises this. So. 10/10 from me, despite all the horribly incorrect things you said on my Techies guide some months ago. Make sure you actually READ this; you weren't paying much attention before, but most of these comments and responses suggest you've come a long way from that. Not saying anything else.
Guide = 10/10 because Skadi Panda is pro.
Great guide!
Just owned in a 5v5 ap,
didnt think panda was such a tank, that plus all that speed. panda is god.
in mid game this poes has different shit in his invitor then he says you must have. check the screan shot.
can this guy solo roshan?, and i dont mean by using six rapiers. jk
and wherther buriza stacks?
No Bracers early game? Or any +damage items early game? Plenty of times I've come acrossed situations where my enemy is left with that tiny red bar and I'm too slow to deal that final blow. I really contemplate getting chrysalis>>buriza. Although your guide really strikes a chord with me. Thnx!
nice strategy...i like it.
what do you mean by "buys things in base so you don't lose money upon death."? does it mean that when you hsve a chicken you wont lose money on death? sorry just a no0b..
Very nice panda guide. I have to admit I'm a basher fan when it comes to using panda, and the build that I usually come up with is an HoT, 2 cranium bashers, and an assault cuirass. Pretty expensive, and it doesn't necessarily work out well.
buriza's dmg stacks but crits do not
also if u have a chicken constantly buying items u will have no buildup of gold so whats there to loose when u die
also considering buying both skadi and sny
sny overrides skadi when maim activates and the two slows stack so for 6 seconds ur opponent will b slowed to less than half of normal ms not counting haze and clap
basically if u have both sny and skadi once u get in one hit the enemy cannot escape (without blink and invs) so there will b no need for dagger unless they have mass stun/slow
Panda Rules .
Isn't Armor Cui a Good Item for him.?
Arcane Ring Solves all ur mana problems dealing with Panda :o u get additional mana and u get to spam ur skills
WoW nice thanks for the help thanks alooot
:wno i no da proper way
Well i use a different build, however it works out for me personally much better. This guy is a tank thats right, and he doesnt need that many life items for that matter. He needs damage and speed, because after you t-clap, enemies r really slow for 4 seconds, and if u have good speed and damage they wont even be able to start running. + you should always use t-clap, from behind, so that when the enemies r running, they have to pass u, and thats when u get them. I had these items: buriza, satanic, assault cuirass, power thread, mekansm(that game finished 2 early 4 me to get something better) and another hyperstone for super speed. Thats it. With that armor + life hes unkillable, and if he can easly get double and tripple kills. U shouldnt forget he already has 20% critical, + more from buriza, it can actually combine. With that attack speed i almost every attack saw him do >450 damage, and every 3-4 attacks he did over 900 - added up critical from buriza and his own. This way no one will be able to run from u since with power threads you are pretty fast, and after t-slap, they r very slow. During this time - 4 seconds u will kill anybody. I mean 900 damage.. with that huge attack speed... i almost never even had to use the ulti - its too short. However when i did - "shudder" the fire panda did 245-270 base damage or something like that. My own damage at lvl 23 was 125-130(about that) +110(about that too ^_^) from items. I pwnd that game 30/0 =D
He's a cool hero! just tried him the other day on random.
a question though, would a bracer do something good in early game?
VERY nice guide!!!
I especialy like how you help to explane creep blocking and the use of primaral spilt with screenys
WELL DONE!!!!
10/10
hmm. Great Guide!! THis guide answer's panda's greatest issue: mana and farming capabilities.... The core item build costs only around 11000, and you can already own!
I fap to this
eos??? god but hard to farm!!! sny better
NONSENSE HERO!!!!!
i'll be making a new panda guide different frm this cos in my opinion panda nid more mana regen compared 2 stats and if u go wif this build u will require late game in order 2 kill and wads more if heroes have their hp getting higher,those frost effects r nothin,dey jus turn back and fight u. panda require aspd and movements speed in order to kill as the slow from clap and drunken haze is already sufficient to kill.cheers.
7/10
I agree to some and not to some. Panda is my number 1 out of my top 5 Dota heroes. As a panda fan, my strategy is quite different from urs. But dagger is really isnt useful for panda. U need mana regen and damage dats wer Battle fury comes in. 5 on 5 battle u start wit chicken and then charge into battle Empty handed. If ur pro at last hit then getting 875 and buying ROH from ur chicken and bringing it to you is nothing but simple clicks wit no stress. So then mana void = preseverance. dis is enough for staying in the lane and no need to return to ur base.after presevernce get Boot of speed and only 1 bracer, this is da part wer u shine in early games cuz dying for u is hard. Complete ur fury then powerthreads. Eye of skadi then HOT as the strat said so. Well finally dis is wer i stop, bcuz im unstoppable and Own b4 i can complete my other items. U can complete ur other item for MKB(recommended just as the strat said)and replacing Bracer for assault(anything u want). Trust me, i know panda better. As for other items, VLADEMER is useless for such a low life steal for panda and skiping vladmer for preseverence is better. BUTTERFLY doesnt stack wit evasion. BURIZO is not needed when u have a free critical already and burizo crit does not stack. SNY is not worth it unlike EOS just as the strat said so.BOT is expensive and just like Dagger so power threads can do tha job. Well im all said and done.
pwede nah
wahhh
This is, I swear to god, unfortunately the best damn char guide I've ever seen. It's unfortunate because all the other guides pretty much do this:
LOLZPWNZHAXOR
TAKE THIS HERO AND GIVE HIM BoT AND SATANIC AND NECRO AND 2 HEARTS AND BURIZA
Unfortunate because all guides should be this good. Great job, chief.
WHERE IS THE BURIZA (CRIT AND DMG)
Is it ok to use eye of skadi and battle fury together?
i think it would be better if you'll just put lvl2 thunder clap. 35%ms is huge cause this will help save mana at start.
another question
how do u nuke at start, i think lvl4 thunderclap will drain 50% of your manapool and its harder with just having dagger and boots/ror.
yeah baby....
panda needs CRITICAL !
Perfect guide!!
ty man really helpful though i put stats and clap and the other skills in the end cause early and mid game panda doesnt have any real ias or damage for drunken brawler and drunken haze is as u said for anti-dps-permastun heroes i think also that skardi is perfect for him.........gj
im a new random played dot awith irl mates for 2 weeks wll try this tomorrow and crush them :D
Just played panda again in a high-level AR game... I was the only one on my team with a positive score throughout the game, and I learned to play panda from this guide. You rock!
Wow! nice strategy!! Thx dude!
wow this is a great panda guide, im used to playing luna, owning early game but sucking end-game with this guide. i can own with panda from early to late game. GW on the ownage guide!!
i love the noobie corner, makes me feel kiddie. if you make another guide put one there.
btw nice guide...very detailed. 9/10
this hero just owns
forget vanguard indeed 2 bracers are enough, this hero is hard to kill, it is a pity some people do not use the abilities of the 3 little panda's. I pwned a meepo with it who threw a net to me
used taunt to let his clones go on 1 panda.. let the rest hit is damages clone.. he run used my stun rock hit and dead rofl
what happen if strait go for skadi no kelens leh??? if im right,drunken haze hav range mah...and clap so big area, y dont jz skip kelens and D.haze,clap,ult?D.haze use mxm75mp & kelens use 90mp n cost 2k...fast fast get skadi then dont need ulti oso vry hebat d
bt i thnk can battle fury 1st lor farm faster then fast fast go skadi and.....
i hope my built is acceptable.
that 4 moving pandas really really vry CUTE!!!
nice guide
Forgot to ask....
why dont up ulti at 6 level???????
Evoken, when meepo net u u ulti so ur pandaS still trapped in net a while or splite outside of net???LOL
Man u rock with this strategy guide !!!!!
4 pandas mana prob in mid early/mid game is arcane ring good?? neway nice guide
actuallyyy...... disregard arcane ring point booster is pretty much enough
arcane ring,dagger,sange yasha den (mkb,satanic,hot) u dont need skadi...u hav clap and arcane ring plus sange n yasha is cheaper but more effective than skadi..ur saying ders no 100% maim..but u dont need to slow him for a very long time..u just need to use clap,atak,atak den chase wid blink den ulti and stun if ur rili greedy..when u use skadi u dont need clap and ur ulti anymore..the slow and the mana problems can be fixed by other items rather than skadi..
well its ur guide...
ok....
What now that Dagger is changed
good guide.
Now that the dagger has changed why not try:
Ring + Courier.
Boots -> Power treads.
RoB -> Vlads.
Lothars edge
Then start building your Skadi. Makes just as much sense.
in one screenshot he has s&y and skadi (lol???)
Why not hyperstone or assault cuirass?
Can I ask a question ?
Does Sunder work on Primal splitted panda ?
can you use arcane ring to spam the clap on panda?
(BTW I dont even know what spam means, i just heard it from someone that its good to spam the clap)
Why not Battlefury??
what the hell.. if i do that... i'll lose
Great guide
Z0mG Y00 NO0B13 I g3T D1V1n3 R4p13R 4ND I 0WN J00!!!! loool
srry jus felt like it, nice guide
Nice guide, asdfjjj can you send me your Mortred guide plz i cant find it.
Great guide!
Eye of skadi and dagger is quite expensive for prioritizing first, plus not enough damage.
damn! a very nice guide. i was thinking if the MKB and vlads was a little too deviant for panda. you think a rapier and aegis will synergise better? or maybe an assault cuirass in place of vlad.
oh well, i also think item priority is sort of wrong because it is indeed hard to initiate skadi so early. any way to circumvent?
nice..juat want to ask..
1) when is panda middle game? i meant when he is level?
2)is the core item is
i)ring of regen/vanguard
ii)mask of skadi
iii)power thread
iv)blink dagger
am i'm correct?
update this for the new kelen's dagger plz.. now u can blink-clap , but tats abt it, no more starting wid a clap. wat do u suggest we do now?
finally. i forgot to use this hero. salamat


