Purist Thunderwrath: Omniknight

hmm.... overall a good and details guide.

i wan ask a question..
when i was LICH, i use the ulti on OMNIKNIGHT that with Guardian Angel.. then OMNIKNIGHT was killed by LICH.

So, is it mean Guardian Angel no effect on spell damage?
Or no effect on spell splash damage(lich ulti hav bounce n splash on nearby units)?
Or it is a BUG?

watever, it is a good guide teaching on OMNIKNIGHT... 10/10

I think that you are just invulnerability against normal damage, does not include magic

ya... i also think like that..

hmm... can OMNIKNIGHT cast GUARDIAN ANGEL then fastly cast REPEL on himself and REPEL does not cancel d GUARDIAN ANGEL?

if yes, then he is fully invulnerability..

Hmmmm, oh, That was my mistake sorry. Casting Guardian Angel gives you +1000 armor, so it doesn't protect you against magic spells., I guess a 9 second avatar taht you can give to your entire team is sort of cheap. :D.

@Kula, yes, I think so because they are just two different buffs, and since youi alreayd casted Guardian Angel is doesn't repel it.

Please ignore the weird yasha business on the item list, i am going to fix that right away.

Nice first guide. keep em coming.

ooo i feel special in the credits

Well i see the guide has been submited finally after what 5 failed attempts

Guardian is JUST for PHYSICAL DAMAGE.And can be removed with purge so your worst nightmare is medusa because if she cast PURGE on you guardian will be removes from all of your alies.So medusa is anti_omni

Yea, I agree, purge can be very bad, but in teambattles, can't purge everyone :D. but definitely one on one.

Yea, I agree, purge can be very bad, but in teambattles, can't purge everyone :D. but definitely one on one.

Ok ok, for all future commentors, I mistaked Guardian Angel, I know that it only protects you from PHYSICAL damage. So thank you for those who kindly pointed that out to me.

Ok ok, for all future commentors, I mistaked Guardian Angel, I know that it only protects you from PHYSICAL damage. So thank you for those who kindly pointed that out to me.

This looks really bad, because my first two posts got doulbed as well but i didn't realize taht purge removes it from EVERYONE. is that a fact? if so, wow, hmmmm, maybe try getting medusa taken out one on one instead of teambattle, because she can mess you up pretty bad.

nice guide there.

btw, i have a question: if i use skadi on omniknight and hit the enemy, will the slow from skadi and degen aura stack?

change SnY with skadi, it has a better orb effect and stacks directly with degen aura.

change SnY with skadi, it has better stats, a better orb effect and frost attack stacks directly with degen aura.

SnY give you huge speed and MAIM. Very very important. Nice guide, I've actually only played Purist once but I know what should work. 10/10

Hey! U mentioned some screen shots above? Where LOL!! juz reminding eu =) Anyway gd guide!

good guide good details but some pics would make any guide better

Great strat...
keep up the good work...

well it doed gives only phsycical invournebility, but you use repel

you shouldn't stay with one skill build. i don't put repel when my enemies have barely no or weak nukes since repel gives away your skill to use purification on yourself since you are magic immune.

Hey,

a very detailed guide. I see alot of effort and props up for that :)
I might try this out someday...;)

@ `UnholY`

I think anyone with a decent dota "sense" would know when to and when not to have a point in repel.

, just get close and heal yourself, 360 damage ftw.
What does that mean?

ftw means "for the win" . And great guide. 10/10

Thanks for all the good comments on my first guide :). For all of those who were confused as to why the guide wasn't there anymore for a short time, there was some strange business with the item build on teh Sange and Yasha. So now its back to pending status.

@`UnholY`
Hmmmm, I like your suggestion of getting Skadi since those two ultimate orbs are more than the Yasha and Sange attribute benefits,but Sange and Yasha is cheaper and you are mostly getting the same effect. Slow=Maim And Eye of Skadi only gives you a few more stats. But its a good suggestion. Thanx.

Also to `UnholY` for your second comment.

Yes, sometimes not having repel is needed. But if you have weak nukers i.e. Strygywr.Then could you just NOT cast repel on yourself? And I have prioritized Purification and Degen Aura in the skill build so...

just get close and heal yourself, 360 damage ftw.
What does that mean?
I still dun get it! Healing yourself will damage others?btw,is he good at small games?I think EoS is better than S&Y COZ MYFRIEND SAYS THAT HIS OPPONENTS ALWAYS TRY TO FINish Purist first above other heroes!

what about arcane ring in early game?

@Salzoris:

Purification heals you AND dispels the damage onto surrounding units. So it's kind of like taking their life and putting it onto you.

@lexlorrenz

good idea on arcane ring but i only get it when i play purist as PURE support, because if you want a killer purist, i'd better spend the money buyin aspd and damage items. sometimes you can get it when your enemy has mana-depleting skills even if you go battle type.

Nice guide but sandking annoys OmniKnight with his 3rd skill at the first game if the played 5v5 coz there is no money .
Is there a way to against it ??

Man as i said before if medusa cast purge on omniknight becuse he gives the buff too the others it removes not just from you but from all your team mates

@leon_m4her1

I am assuming you mean Sand Storm? Well, you probably won't net kills against him, early game, but if he has to use sand storm against a support just to run away.... . Plus its better to farm than kill. At least in the early levels.

@Salzoris
It doesn't say on the Level: 1, 2, 3, 4, discriptions, but it says in the skill discription that Purification damages 360 around the one you are healing.

@lexlorrenz
Arcane ring is a good alternative as it costs about the same to Perseverance, but it doesn't do that much in the later levels, because you won't have that many mana problems. Plus, you can upgrade perseverance


@pornO_staR
Well, it looks like you have an Anti-Omniknight then. I suggest taking out Medusa alone instead of teambattle, because she can tip the tables on you.

don't worry about medusa. noone plays her in AP games anyways, those that random her in AR games simply repick as well. she's a bad hero in skilled games.

sandking's third skill is actualy that lethal injection thingy where the creep explodes if SK gets last hit doing a max of like 200ish AoE dmg. its not just annoying to omni, its annyoing to ALL melee heroes. the best way to make sure SK doesnt pop a creep is to A) deny it. or B) harrass SK with abilities until it goes away. in omni's case, purify is all you got but its all you really need in a 1v1 situation against sk if he doesnt have ulti yet.

Thanks Panda for clearing that up. I didn't realize you were referring to Caustic Finale.

@leon_m4her1
Panda sorta answered it for you right there. Bascially try to deny deny deny as best as you can.

First off, I would remove the Valdamirs and get Satanic, 25% is a hell of alot better, Also!!! Where is this build is your b fury?! Im ashamed! Linkons?! Still you need b fury, get both IDC it should be in there!!! haha nice on the items and why to get them, lol

hmm..another good and effective guide..

nice

@GaNkStA

If you compare the two items....
Linkens Sphere costs 5500
Battle Fury costs 4785

Linken's Sphere offers 15 to all stats. And it also offers 6 hp and 150% mana regen. Since battle fury offers that too, the differences are taht Battle fury has more damage +65,while Linken's only offers +15 due to STR attribute pts, and cleaving. Since you can already farm easily, the cleaving is sorta useless, and if you want damage items, mebbe go for something better i.e. Radiance?

I don't really kno, but Linken's just fits my style better. If you want to get Battle Fury, then it is your choice :D.

nice

@Holy Shit

Thankx

I don't think if sange yasha and vladimir will effect? because sange yasha is an orb effect, but nice try

lol cool guide!

@ajames009

I think you are confused. The components of Vladmir's Offering is R.o.B and That mask thingy. The mask is an orb effect, but once you upgrade it to Vladmir's Offering it isn't.

Omni=Boots of travel,skadi,radience,mkb,battle,heart

Omni = Power threads, Battle fury, Vladimir's Offering, Eye of Skadi, Assault Cuirass, Dagger.... with dagger at hand you can at least follow the hero while whacking him almost everywhere and then escape if it gets pretty dangerous. guess i don't need HoT since skadi can fill up for that and as much as you want it you can not purchase it since the game might already be over with that item build.

@jeff9stalker
@Parekoy

Thanks for the alternate item builds :). It gives me a wider perspective since I am still a newb.

thx dude

i would prefer battle fury..

damage+regen

then i think having a vanguard is fanstatic.

(but omni is a supporting` hero wad?)

depends on ur teamates....

I think S&Y's much better than Skadi....u can get it easier...u'll have to wait for 2300 gold just to get one ultimate orb....u can compltete either S or Y with this much...Nice guide.

@mando

Well, its really your choice. But I prefer Linken's Sphere because it adds all around stats. Purist is a very balanced hero in my opionion. Except maybe his really sucky attack speed. But that can be fixed with Sange and Yasha. But I suppose Battle Fury could help in farming. But if you think about it, why are you using 4875 gold to farm it back? Probably the only thing that makes me consider battle fury is its extra damage. I just love the damage and regen molded into one item. But, like I said before, its really your choice. [By the time you get Battle fury the game probably starts to end]. Thats another reason I don't get it [that much]

ok let's compare SnY and EoS:
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Orb Effect:

yes SnY may give speed and maim, but maim has a low chance of happening and omniknight doesn't have that much aspd even with SnY, with EoS, you have a 100% chance to do a frost attack unlike maim with a 20%(?) chance.

Winner : for me EoS
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Stats:
SnY has no int, and moderate agi and str increase, while EoS gives equal and high stats (+20 each). and omniknight needs the most stats he can .(especially int, which SnY doesn't have)

Winner: EoS
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Other Effects:

SnY has +10% movement speed and attack speed, skadi gives extra HP and mana exluding the stats. in most circumstances, the extra movement speed is more needed by omni since he has low movement speed, oh, and also the extra attackspeed.

Winner : SnY
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Price:

Guess what?

Winner: SnY
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So maybe it is a draw...
But i like skadi more

ei kula7 pls read guardian angel is for physical damage not magic pls read

@`UnholY`

Wow...thanks for all that technical stuff. But I conclude that its a question of how well you are doing. Since the components of Sange and Yasha are easier to work at. If you aren't doing so well farming/winning teambattles/getting pushed etc. Then go for that. If you feel you are comfortable, then get Eye of Skadi.

Note: I think the Maim is only 10% with Sange and Yasha.

Thanks for the people who upped the rating to five stars...wow.., i never expected it to go up again after it dropped to four. [When making my guide the best i coulda hoped for was three ] so thanks again.

nice for your first guide 10/10

well, yes SnY is A LOT easier to farm for... that's why SnY won if we're talking about the price..

oh and also i like satanic on omniknight...

it gives str, lifesteal, armor, regen, and also unholy rage! extra damage and lifesteal is very helpful to any hero..

and if you would say that tarasque is better than satanic... well then...

LET'S COMPARE ITEMS AGAIN!!!
Satanic VS. HoT
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More Tankish item:

probably HoT, since it gives +300HP and has 10 str higher than what satanic gives. +11 HP regen per second, which is enourmous. satanic gives +25 str, +5 armor, and lifesteal.
when you are in battle, satanic would be more comfortable to be with, cuz of the lifesteal, plus your high damage, with your purification, you won't get damaged easily. i'm not even talking about the armor it gives.

Winner : Satanic
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Killing:

actually HoT is all about surviving(except for the extra 35 damage it gives to str types), while satanic has an active ability that gives extra damage and lifesteal. so...

Winner : Satanic
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Price:

both use a reaver, which is hard to farm for, making them both late game items, but overall HoT really is cheaper and more effective when it is not finished yet.

Winner: HoT
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Defending:

when you are defending, you really need the armor, which satanic gives, and the regen(lifesteal is almost the same it regenerates your HP when attacking)..
although you need radiance or battlefury to be really effiecient with your skills(purification, really effective against mobs of creeps). even if HoT gives much more HP, satanic is still the winner.. (still if you can't kill the creeps that much if they already are mega creeps, i suggest buying blademails, or better yet let your other teammate do the job)

Winner : Satanic
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even though satanic is hard to farm for, it pays off when it is finished, it will save your life at times, and the active skill really helps killing...

*mutters* you and your comparisons... wutever man, if you wanna focus on killing and making the other team sad because they're gettin pwned by a support, then get satanic. I suppose it could be a better alternative then H.o.T.

very nice guide 10/10

nice....

Well, it seems like after all the thoughtful comments on my item build. It seems like more people prefer....

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H.o.T VS Satanic Winner: Satanic

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SnY VS Eye of Skadi Winner: E.o.S

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Linkens VS Battle Fury Winner: BF

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So the new item build:
Power Treads, Satanic, E.o.S, Battle Fury, Vladmirs.

I still think the Vladmirs is good because 5 armor aura. Helps with creep pushes. not to mention lifesteal.

Whoops, Skadi and Satanic are both orbies.

. But I think skadi would probably be better choice, because you already have Vladmir's.

you said it... radiance is also a good idea for farming and damage purposes.. but i won't do the comparing again.. i'm a little bored now.. hehe.

yeh not too impressed on the idea of a linkes, no need when u have like repel.
but i dunno, maybe u dont use repel because u need to heal urself, but im sure u wont need to heal urself often when u already have heart, s n y, and lifesteal.
wtf were u thinking
plus pally is a support hero, and needs alot more mana than what u gave him.

Every time you will have Battle Fury always pair it up with life steal brings back loss life more quickly and finish off creeps all by yourself... Its like you don't have to wait for a newly spawned crreps to be by yourside in dealing with the enemies creeps. You can also protect your towers with no worries at all.

@Parekoy

hmmm, i didn't kno the cleaving would bring back life. could anyone else confirm this? i read somewhere that lifesteal doesn't go on a cleave.

@Parekoy

no lifesteal does not happen in cleaves...

I totally disagree getting vanguard late game becase its simply useless when your enemies has a high base damage but overall nice guide

Nice

Try Using Mekanisems it will go right away to purist when Repel skill is on

And use some Manta every area hero need one of these ( Guardian angel, 3x Feedback, 3x Bigger area of degen Aura, 3x Probabilty of Maiming {Sange} )

Hi,

few cents and supports for our omni writer

SNY vs Skadi :

SNY is definitely the way to go, because omni is a support hero and he already has DEGEN AURA , skadi's frost gets pretty wasted in that sense . And at the same time, it takes a considerable amount of time to farm up skadi then SNY that means u'll spend MOST of your time mid game farming. And only carry heroes do that kind of a thing :X

BattleFury vs Linken

Linken wins flat hands down like anyday.
Battlefury gives a grand total of 0 to all stats whereas linken gives a total of +15 to all stats.

Cleave : USeless on omni - no natural DPS at all to SPLASH anything significant . If anything, splashing like this basically u're putting up a big "KILL ME" sign

Spell block : INcredibly good for omni whom is usually targetted with some nasty spell (ESP DOOM) and linken negates it. Experienced players wont fall for this trick but at least u can still count on ur opponent to mess up

Although battle fury gives dmaage, omni wont be standing in the middle of a fight dealing raw DPS power , his job is to heal/GA/Repel - chase later if needed and you can bet every cent your opponent will not allow you to even get a chance to use GA if they can help it

Nice overall guide as i mentioned earlier :)

GG-omni

GOOD GUIDE.. 4 rapiers would be the best

@Jayzee

Thanks for the comment. I once got 6 rapiers on an experiment...took down every hero in like 4-5 hits LOL.

I just wanted to say thankx for all the constructive comments on my guide...I took all of your comments on the items and things in account as well...

okay im going to add my two cents on this one...
for me i get radiance first and foremost. it is an awesome farming tool and with your degen aura you will hunt heroes effectively.
i then grab a satanic or a vlads depending on how needy i am for the extra lifesteal and stats.
finally i get a linkens for minor stats and its effect.
if your going to be chasing heroes down then go for a BoT but if you are going to be 'dueling' heroes then get treads.
thats my strat for omni

@Sammeh
I c your technique :).

@Sammeh
Well, the reason I don't get Radiance early is because number one, even tho you have extra damage, your DPS will still suck because you have low attack speed...
Two, the increments of gold for Radiance is extremely high. E.G Sacred relic=3800 gold, that almost takes like 10 leveles to farm for..it puts you at a disadvantage because you are spending a lot of time farming..and the scroll of course 1700 around...,
Third, other than immolation, it doesn't help you aid in team battles...

yes somtimes rushing for certain items can put you at an advantage but this time i dont think so.

Thats why i said get it later because you have the attack speed to support the extra damage, farming is made easier by hit hit hit/purification combo, and the immolation is put into more effect by either preserving your base, or going through massive creep waves while attacking..

I also realize the conflict between getting Satanic and Vladmir's...The lifesteal in my opinionin is a LUXURY, something that HELPS, not something to depend on, i like Vlad's for its aura's that help the entire team, brilliance [everybody needs mana regen] and +FIVE armor [talk about massive creep pushes!]

Omniknight has always been my favorite hero, and u did a good job with his strat. The only thing i would change is getting null talismans instead of bracers(spamming Puri is key). I would also add a MoM sometime in the game. If u The berserking effect p00ns with omni. now nobody can run from you and ur lifesteal is around 30% with Vlads. this alone lets u berserk and solo an entire mob wave without puri(you actually gain HP from the lifesteal). This will let u ezily take down buildings and gain cash for ur uber weapons. All in all though a thurough great guide! 10/10

@nthomas5143

I like your suggestion on getting M.o.M, it offers the two things that Purist needs, movement speed [syncrhonizes with Degen Aura, whats the use of a slowed enemy and you STILL cant catch up with him?], and Attack speed, [Purist attack speed sux really bad]. Not to mention it is relatively cheap, so no extended periods of time farming.

I mostly favor SnY because of its attribute bonuses, 16 for strenth and 16 for agility makes a combined net worth of 32 attribute bonuses. It also makes it easier that although the effectiveness of SnY PWNS, it is still relatively easy to work at. unlike radiance....BDK.....MKB...etc..

And about the Null vs Brace....

Let us compare.....
2Bracer offers 228 hp, and 78 mana points...
2Null offers 114hp, and around 126 MP.

Now the Hp 2 Null offers in my opinion isn't enough, an extra 114 hp can make a difference....notice how muach 2 null offers...126 mana. That's just enough to cast one more Purification...the regen two nulls offer is around .5 mana regne, so that isn't enough to sustain you, at least for a while....I let Perseverance take care of the mana issues for me, and if all goes well, you might not need bracers at all :).

But like I stated on some of my previous comments, it's really your choice. If you want to be aggressive and get2-3 nulls to have lane dominace and stay in your lane longer, go for it. You can experiment with Purist with all sorts of things...:).

@nthomas5143

I like your suggestion on getting M.o.M, it offers the two things that Purist needs, movement speed [syncrhonizes with Degen Aura, whats the use of a slowed enemy and you STILL cant catch up with him?], and Attack speed, [Purist attack speed sux really bad]. Not to mention it is relatively cheap, so no extended periods of time farming.

I mostly favor SnY because of its attribute bonuses, 16 for strenth and 16 for agility makes a combined net worth of 32 attribute bonuses. It also makes it easier that although the effectiveness of SnY PWNS, it is still relatively easy to work at. unlike radiance....BDK.....MKB...etc..

And about the Null vs Brace....

Let us compare.....
2Bracer offers 228 hp, and 78 mana points...
2Null offers 114hp, and around 126 MP.

Now the Hp 2 Null offers in my opinion isn't enough, an extra 114 hp can make a difference....notice how muach 2 null offers...126 mana. That's just enough to cast one more Purification...the regen two nulls offer is around .5 mana regne, so that isn't enough to sustain you, at least for a while....I let Perseverance take care of the mana issues for me, and if all goes well, you might not need bracers at all :).

But like I stated on some of my previous comments, it's really your choice. If you want to be aggressive and get2-3 nulls to have lane dominace and stay in your lane longer, go for it. You can experiment with Purist with all sorts of things...:).

0h yeah!
ominknight r0cks!
the best supporter!

You're totally right r0cker_ziku_027!

Omniknight IS one of the best supporters in the game! Not to mention he's relatively balanced!

With a few items here and there he can become a GOD LIKE hero killer as well!

@rofl_schlong

Ok, you don't like linkens. you said that "pally" is a support hero. then what would he be doing casting repel on himself. more like other heroes in teambattles etc. mana, linken's takes care of mana problems, heck perseveranec almost takes care of mana problems, linkens offers 150% mana regen, and +15 int, that's more than enough to sustain him. it's not like he's gonna cast all day. He only has to cast three spells that take up what, 300 ish mana in teambattles...plus, of course you don't need healing that much in late game. but there are times where your health is in trouble, plus, its a 360 damage nuke as well...

Nice Strategy
I like this hero coz if you play well you'll never be killed and get a lot of kills I suggest you add lother's to the items to come from behind your enemies and slows them by your Degen Aura then use all of your skills
anyway........
give it 9/10

Hmmm, good combo would mebbe be...

M.o.M+Lothar's Edge

Go invis, turn on M.o.M, start whacking..dead!

Lothar's is good idea..thanks.

Wow, so much written on such a new guide. I guess that means this site's getting more popular.

Anyway, good guide, not much different from the other omni-guide (identical skill build even). This one's a little bit more fleshed out. I guess it's hard not to like Omni (unless you're one of the hated heretics on the other team).

Huh, I didn't realize the skill build was so similar...hmm, I meant to put THREE points in degen aura before getting two points in repel...oh well, too lazy to change it back.

I meant to put screenies, but my comp got reformatted and i forgot to put replays in Flash Drive or some other storage device..now Im just too lazy being there are more guides after mine and everybody seems to have posted..meh.

Hooray for DS fame..what I hate most about Omni [If im not playing him] is is degen aura...especailly if you are melee. Scenario: Go up to omni, omni has a sliver of health. You are just gonna attack, your club flies into the air and....huh? dang it! degen aura slowed me! now i hafta catch up to him again. and repeat...

Needs damage... Add Buriz

@jakiro2123

Good idea on the Buriza-do-Kyanon, But I feel like that if you want damage, getting some other weapon is better. Why? Because Buriza-do-Kyanon only offers 75 damage, for 6200 gold. In that terms, spending 6200 gold for 75 damage is kinda bad. And purist isn't a DPS attack speed hero, he's a support, I don't think the crits will proc that much to make a difference. Rather get MKB on my conclusion item suggetsions, it helps more cuz it only costs 5400 gold, gives same amount of damage for it, and it gives 30% 100 BONUS damage, what more can you ask for?

rember that the omniknights guardian angel is not invulnerability...its NEAR-invulnerability. if u dun belive me chek by playin him

@arczarcanium
yea, i knew it only grants you PHYSICAL invulnerabilty cuz it gives you 1000 armor, but i sorta phrased it wrong in my guide and the skill description, sorry for everybody who had it confused...

Great strats, thorough explanation of teambattles and what to do when and why. Worthy of 5 stars. 10/10!!!!

btw, in the newest edition, theres an item called bloodstone, will that make him a great supporting matyr? should it work for him

@tundaga2
Thanks for the comment. About the Blood stone..
Yes, I actually think it could be a very nice item for Purist since in teambattles he's focus fired cuz his skills are really cheap, 20 sec of magic immunity, can give phsyical immunity, can heal and dispel the damage to everybody, Woot! so yes, its easy to farm for with the increments of around 1000. very nice, you gave me an idea! thanks.

hmm.. I've seen some people go for BkB for the 10 sec(?) avatar and also the str bonus mid game even though they already have repel.. they usually use when they are chasing runners i guess people just like the 30 sec spell immunity so they dont get disabled to ensure a kill??? idk i havent used omni till now... Great Guide 10/10

@AnGeLbLaDe56
Thanks for comment.

BKB is not good choice IMO. Sange already takes care of that for you [with the also added addition of MAIM].....i guess BKB would be good for you if a lot of ppl like to disable you so you can cast your spells on other ppl without worrying about disabler/stunners. but9/10 i wouldn't even think about going for BKB.

Well this build wins your average lan games but in advanced games you should be focusing on your supporting abilities. I find that radiance should be gotten earlier, maybe you can rush this item?

@fwii~

I am confused, what items would you suggest to make Purist for "support?"

And how does Radiance help Purist in support? i kno 35 damage immolation but that only tickles heroes if you are not attacking them.

and how can purist support if rush for Radiance?
scenario: Purist takes damage has to go back to tower cuz he has no health regen.

scenario: you can't heal allied hero cuz you just burned lots healing yourself cuz you have no mana regen.

If at all the need arises to rush for Radiance at least get Perseverance w/R.o.B done, you can forget about Power Treads, or at least get boots, your choice.

@Bertan
1. It's kinda hard to interpret what u r saying. I am ASSUMING its saying....

"This...guide..is....Good!..

So thanks...i guess...
2. I don't think spam is allowed is it?

Does repel cause dispel? Im not sure because when I cast guardian angel then repel on self, it seemed to cancel the guardian angel. Im not sure tho

@tundaga2

To tell you the truth tundaga2 i have never tried, thats why in my replies on this topic i said i "think" so, usually im just casting it on other heroes in teambattles. You should never waste half of your casting capacity on yourself, thats a little bit greedy unless on ONE on ONE which purist is not really the best for.

But ill do an experiment and see this afternoon.

@ transfat
I assumed he was going battle Purist and Therefore should rush Radiance but a supporter Purist should get Euls instead.

Treads, mekanism,SnY, radiance is all you need.

@fwii~
Lol, if by "he" you mean the guide author...i AM the guide author O_O.
Well, i just mainly thought that the items i had would be enough for you to be ABLE to keep on using the skills that you alreayd have more...like perseverance for mana regen so you can keep on using those support skills etc...

If you are thinking stuff like Mekansm..i dont think it would be that good for Purist cuz he doesn't NEED mekansm, yes 250 heal helps but isn't that the same for about every other hero? Rather let Chen, or Visage, or Rhasta, or any other hero that is more suitable for mekansm to get it.

If you could list some other supporting items i would gladly give my reasons why i would not get them...

@blun

hello? there is a flaw in your item build. MANA and MANA REGEN. other than that its pretty good.

btw FUCK YOU ALL HAHAHAHA NOOBS FUKCERS FUCK CUNTS

@ richardfeng

do u s0ck or somethin'!?

@transfat
gg

@richardfeng
Wtf, if you're not gonna comment something construvitve don't comment at all.

i get battle fury travels sny heart buriza with him, battle fury 1st so he can farm...attacks a creep and has the cleav, then he heals and they all die, travels help more with chasing o.O

@xXNoobVlasicXx
Well its not like you can only have 1 build for Purist. You can versatile builds that fit in every comparment. Support=Arcane ring, mekansm, Vladmir's Offering...
Killer=MKB, SnY, mebbe Radiance...

@richardfeng
i think you shoulda be really careful to what you are saying cuz this site is "people" friendly so anyone who plays DoTa orl ikes DoTa is welcome here to discuss and be active with this website. i dont think that kind of language is allowed..u might get into trouble if a MOD saw that...

i would really appreciate it if you could comment on my guide "properly" instead of saying....well...those things...

Thanks.

omni is a team hero.

@mando
I think everybody would agree wif you on dat one.

i havent read all the comments so i dont know if someone said this already but

i am pretty sure that if you cast GA first then repel, GA will be removed since repel removes buffs.

also GA only gives you protection against physical attacts. it does not save you from magic hence, freezing field, epicenter and other spells will kill you even if you have GA on.

and just wanna say that in case you want to completely remake your guide and make a full time support omni (which i think is a lot more useful than a one fourth support, three fourths killer omni) i advise you to ead the premium guide found in dotaportal.com.

peace

great guide! 10/10

@eyefury
would you mind suggesting some things that make Purist more support?

this build is terrible

@transfat

mekansm
eul's --> guinsoo
necro

mek- mek + purification for fast healing.
eul's cyclone lets you pin a hero while your allies prepare to unleash their combos.
also, due to the recent nerf on eul's cooldown, a hero can only cast it once in team battles so if you need to perma cyclone a very annoying hero, the team will need more than 1 source of eul's.

also if there is a medusa on the enemy team, you can cyclone her so she cant purge your buffs

hex from guinsoo has lots of uses.

necro- mana burn a hero that needs lots of mana to do his combo. endurance aura will also help in chasing.

do not get treads, omni wont deal considerable damage even with the additional atkspd. get travel instead, tele is good to have when pushing.

arcane ring is good too if your allies are mostly spammers.

also, if no one in your team gets cuirass, get it. the -armor aura really helps.

i dont like SnY but i dont have a good alternative either. Skadi is so much better but loses to SnY because of its price.

also get vlad only when there are more than 2 melee your team. creeps wont benefit m much from the lifesteal since they have crappy damage.

@NightAssasinX
ok, u said my build was terrible, but you didn't say what was wrong with it and how YOU would build Pursist Omniknight. So in the end your comment is useless in terms of helping me...or contributing construvtivly in the "comments" section.

purist is a very powerful hero!!!
to stop him try to bun his mana!!!
hahaha!!!

can the omni repel prevent axe's culling blade from hitting you?. btw its a nice strat

nice guide man!

ok i see your point. all that stuff makes COMPLETE sense and i won't try to bring it down....

But IMO purist's skills should suffice for support, (you have three kick@ss supporting skills). this build makes you sorta "hero" dependant since you are becoming more support-ish and you can't really do that much by yourself. i prefer to get MY build because when you are alone pushing/defending/farming etc. you can hold your ground and not just run away since Arcane ring, mekansm, and Guisoo will not give you any chance to kill a hero. Hey, its too different persepectives and i appreciate the one you brought to the comments section. thx.

ARGH!!!!!! forgot to include....

@eyefury ^^^ in above post.

@ihc
thanks

@nunuzac
i dont kno, but im leanining towards YES, but don't try to find out in real games XD. with your purification and GA you shouldn't really reach down to the culling killing hp levels.

@chrizzz24
yes he's a VERY powerful hero, and to the mana burn, yea it will screw him up, i suggest whenever NA or AM (Anubarak and Anti mage the 2 mana burners) apporach to mana burn you attack them because they proabaly do not expect that and heal witht he little mana you have left and that should get them scurrying back to their base. mana burner's are often accustomed to mana burning then falling back, surprise them by calling in Teammate or attacking them and being agressive. counter agressivenss with your own agressivenses.

just 2 let people kno im gonna make Rhasta guide soon, (hes my favorite int hero and very nice disalber) thanks for all good and supportive/constructive criticisms on my guide!!!

yes, pls make a rhasta guide! thx.

WTF, Massing damage items on a supposed to be support hero makes this a good guide? Yes this will own in your average 3vs3s bu5t in a real team game your going to be quite useless. Omni needs a mana pool to be effective not 10000000000% mana regen.

@fwii~
damage items? did i mass damage items? let us take a look at the item build. H.o.T, damage? it adds hp and hp regen, and adds a minor damage bonus if you're strength, power treads?, no damage there, SnY?, doesn't mainly give damage but movement speed bonus, hp bonus, and attack speed bonus, vladmir's offering, no damage there, linken's sphere, NO DAMAGE. how can you say i massed damage items when i did not get one item that mainly contributed to damage.

yes and if you looked earlier there was already someone who suggested the supporter build and do u know what i said? i said that we haev different views on how to play him and i said "thanks for bringn your view to comments section". there have already been a dozen commments on their view on a supporter purist.

one last thing fwii~, 100000000% mana regen, wowz, linken's sphere only offers 150% mana regen. i did not list any other mana regen tiems nor did i stack mana regen insanely.

Lol sorry I didn't read the other comments. I just flipped when I saw the Items you recomended afterwards.

Anyway I exagerated when I said 100000% mana regen but you get my point do you?

Whoops i didn't realized I commented on this guide already!!
I'm such a big noob.

lol did u think that was the actual item bulid i would flip too if i saw those items recomnmended for purist . I just normally don't get the support build because...
1. I'm useless without another hero
2. GA, Purification, Repel is enough support.

If you wanted to go support at all try a hybrid one. Mekansm, Power Treads, Guinsoo, SnY...i dont kno, im not goood at combining two different item builds . but you get my point.

tnx very much i will use this guide when i play with omniknight

But medusa can still purge omni when he has repel right?

@THE_ONLY
That is correct.

sound to good i try play it

your forgettinmg sumthing you should buy skadi vanguard butterfly and radiance and dagon thats it y terrasque?? lol hes almost invulnerable thats y you have 2nd skill to block the magics you have healing powers well yeah thats nice linken is nice well your guide is ok 7/10

@leshrac_309
Your build is 100% battle Omni. Mine isn't. We just simply disagree on how to build him.

nice but try getting vladmirs befor heart. trust me it owns

@bloodcatylist
ok...i usually get H.o.T before cuz the lifesteal IMO is a LUXURY for omniknight to have. the brilliance gain is only minor and the armor gain is good but you can still have good creep pushes with +3 armor to all creeps.

thanks for suggestion tho!

Why not Eye of Skadi?

lol omni is not that effective w/ skadi especially against str heroes,it only should be used against int heroes...lets try 1 on 1...ur omni w/ skadi vs my abbadon w/ SnY...lets try it

hmm refresher orb, not very useful i think, unless you have a high mana pool..

Cool! Impressive idea whoooaaaaa!!This is cool . I should try now so that I can beat my classmates hehe

'I will show screen shots of this later.'
whers the screenies

'I will show screen shots of this later.'
whers the screenies

^^^^^^refer to comment 88. its the middle paragraph

but for explanation, on top and bottom there are routes that cut diagonaly on the corners. i find taht whenver im chasing i can cut through those corners and kill the hero. Simple because its a triangle. I am taking the C route while the enemy has to take A and B route. C is shorter than A and B so naturally its the route to go when chasing. Uh, Pythagoreum Theorem crap.

My motto when chasing is "TAKE THE HYPOTENUSE!" lol

hi
ive only played omni 2 times and i used it both times and dominate the game.. so
i agree with ur itmes accept S&Y get radience and MoM instead becaus there slowed u can chace easy and they take imolation, when u get 2 them u frenzy and prawn them so hard it rlly fun

Omniknight is one of my favourite heroes now but I can never try all the items in the build coz the game finish too soon (us winning, of course) Anyway, Sven + Omniknight is the ultimate combo for lane dominance (without more than 3 enemy hero gathering)

select your character

my son is missing he looks like pudge with centaur war chief head holding auishta's spear please pose a massage if u see him

truly your,
blood_lust

thats a good guide
thnks for the help



10/10

maybe when u used CF the effects of GA were gone.. maybeits a lvl 1 GA, and he focused on stats, so then it lasted only 5 secs, then u killed him.. thats just a possible explanation..


hey.. u didnt emphasize on radiance in attacking.. try to include radiance! in chasing enemies.. u have degen aura, and when the enemies have slow MS they will definitely fall for that sparkly christmas-lighty stuff.. plus some addedd attack bonuses so... here's my build: just a minor suggestion buidling on the one given earlier:


B o T
Linken
S n Y
Radiance
Cuirass
Heart or MKB

there..

hello

it was a good one stratergy cause before thi s i used fight with enemy heroes with repel on me allways caause of which i used to loose
but with it if there would be some pics then it would be more intresting

@fluffygooch
Hello

@Dhaval [vicky]
ya thanks for comment. I am most likely gonna put pics in my next guide (rhasta) but im so busy lol.

dream build skadi sny treads bfury vlads heart

cool guide! But I have one question... What will happen if Techies uses suicide while in Guardian Angel status??

@boredguy
Techies still die because...

1. Suicide does not do physical damage. GA only protects against physical attacks

2. It doesnt do any damage toward techies, its an automatic death for him.

@1337!!!111
The only thing wrong with ur build is that SnY and Skadi are both orb effects.

Guardian Angel doesn't even give full invulnerability... You guys know this... its 99% armour increase and rapid HP regeneration. So virtually all PHYSICAL damage is nullified.

Guardian Angel doesn't even give full invulnerability... You guys know this... its 99% armour increase and rapid HP regeneration. So virtually all PHYSICAL damage is nullified.

@stt3605
I think it gives only 1000+ armor. not 99% armor bonus.

travel+degen aura is better...

guinsoo great for your open slot... great for disabling in team games or even 1-1

hey guyzzz...Guardian Angels givs greatly increasd hit point regen.. so shud u cast it while goin into battle or wen ur low health... plz reply quikly...if possible to bala_raven@hotmail.com

i have a question.if ne other hero(enemy)has diffusal will it work da same way as medusa?


ne way bro nice guide.

@proxx

Thanks for the positive comment. Hope you play Purist better because of this guide...

To answer your question. Yes.

nice..very complete detail too..
but why don't change the preseverence with void..void can make guinsoo..

well i'm not that lover of omniknight, but this guide is a on of a kind because it includes everything btw u should include the heros that we should look out for

thanks for the guide i'm absolutly goin to try it..

I'll try it as well. I'll give you 10/10 if it works well. I always play in gg when i'm at home.

@yugen

Well. I SUPPOSE Guinsoo could work...extra mana and mana regen balances out the lack of hp/hp regen cuz you can spam your Purification, but really in terms of mana its....over doing it. You might argue hex could be a valuable asset to the team, I would only get it if there is no other hero best suited for Guinsoo, such as Rhasta..or Lion..ETC. ETC. ETC.

@abu turk
Thanks ;). Compliments are always refreshing.

@mv20vm
Hopes this guide works well :D

Hey Transfat, thanks a lot! I could never manage to kill a guy with Purist...untill now. Now, 1 on 1 is easy at earlygame

@samisaround

Heheheh Thx dude.

lovley guide but about the Angel skill it gives 1000armor bonus to the HERO armor... and hero armor takes reduces dmg from magic so it should any way reduce the spells quite alot so mixin in a hood would be quite good in the last slot

we could also use:
1 2x Cranium Basher
2 SnY
3 Power Treads
4 Eye of Skadi
5 HoT

TRY THESE!

@FantomChaser
Its the Armor Type that reduces the magic dmg. Not the armor quantity. Hero Type armor reduces magic dmg by 25% ( if im not mistaken), no matter how much armor you have it wont reduce magic dmg any further. H.o.D is nice but its situational.

Maybe im a noob but id get mask of maddness over vladmirs because it has more lifesteal and u can boost your movement and atk speed even further with it and 20% more damage pfft thats what healings for :P

@Doddy
Ya take a took at comment 81, first paragraph.

niCe guIdE!! . I really wAnt to use omni wiseLY in team and SoLO games. Thnx 4 making it clear on what to Do..GrEat guide agaIn

Purist and abbadon are just thesame

I like your build in many ways BUT you need bot and meka for great omni playing. he is a support hero. ont a tank. so skip hot and linkens

mmmmmm.... does repel nullify spell like doom or battle hunger when its already casted on you?

nice guide!!!!

shut up ass dis aint good enough you dumbass!!!!!

like you can cast a spell while on doom... duh!

which one is stronger, abadon or this guy?

I like you putting in refresher orb in your skill... it can help you push and kill. use 18secs of guardian angel if there is no hero to push and when there is hero... KILL THEM with the help of your creep and degen aura

Y not Eye Of Skadi?Skadi + degen aura means super slow enemies.right?

why wouldn't you get bot's to maximize on your aura?

thank you 4 some tipes!!!

Nice one

Well Transfat, you got urself some very deserved congratulations!
Although i didn't read ALL of the comments i would like to know what you suggest of putting one Cranuim Basher as 6th item? [As Timelocker asked you in the 181th comment =)]
i was just wondering because it could give you some bash which would make hero killing / team killing easier... and it adds some dmg aswell
Im awaytin you response soon
Till then,
Napoleooon
GL HF GG!!

donde esta el arcane??
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Guardian Angel only give 1000 armor people. It doesn't become invulnerable and spell immune anymore. Because there have been issues that if you're attacking Omniknight and he casts Guardian Angel, you will give up the command of attacking him because he's invulnerable instead of chasing him.

Guys i think that Healer would be a bit more supporter.I advice tou to make these items:Boots Of Travell,Arcane Ring,Meganism,Sange & Yasha,Heart Of Tarrasque,Vladdimr's Offering.

how bout this build:

BoT
battle fury
HoT
radiance
basher
basher

goooodddd...

I found out that repel blocks all magic even purification. So don't repel your tank and then use purification on him

Well..For me,my omniknight is support type,plz gv commamnd on my item build at late games
Refresher Ord + S&Y + Guinsoo + Boots of travel + Heartz + Mekansm. plz ake note that this is support type. thx a lot

Nice Guide dude. Keep on making more guides

With Purist, anything is a possibility.
Below are my items. (LOL, the opponent was laughing at my 4th item until I raped them)
- PowerTreads
- Battlefury
- Helm of Dominator
- Shiva's Guard

YES, yes, Shiva's Guard was laughable until I ran into their base. I froze them in their tracks, cut Bloodseeker into pieces, healed myself, chopped Enchantress into bits, ran out, Shiva-ed Luna and Earthshaker and laughed.

I used to run around with a Guinsoo it was so funny seeing their reaction when they got hexed by Purist.

But my kills in that pub was 8/2.

*it lagged badly to my advantage*

for omniknight i usually get buriza for critical damage

thanks!bro!

Umm.. Do you really think that you need Linken's? You already got repel with you, so IMO Linken's isn't necessary. The voidstone alone is enough. Also from that much mana regen from Basilius and Voidstone, you won't need the ring of health early - mid game since you can heal yourself. In late game (in your build) you're going to make HoT so the ring is quite wasted.

@212 - you can't heal yourself with Repel on. With the Linken's sphere you can prevent a spell, knowing you are a target for gank and simply Repel after u see linken being activated.

It's a nice build, but Purist can go for many different item combinations.

well transfat i think your build is too much spd based heart as well as styg and assult is sufficient in herokilling plus the additional armor you dont need spd and atspd is covered with assault

i took out troll with this guys
whole game without even dying once.
this guys is a Great Hero

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Maybe a arcane ring would u being more sopporter?

hey if i m using omni i will get battle fury 1st cos of mana regen n oso giv hp n atk

nice strat...y didnt you get travel in the late game..that was a nice item and with your MS and degen aura they cant catch you easily and they cant escape easily also..
10/10 i'll go for radiance in the lst slot

ShOulD I gEt EyE oF sKaDi oN thIs hEro?
to Help The DeGeN aUrA

@220

Skadi - Not recommended. Cannot stack with SnY and hard to obtain. EoS is not for Purist as it is too costly to assemble.

Repel a rotting pudge ally! Aint that great!

y would u get a sny et a skadi ffs!! u will most like;y get all kill then radiance... nobss

Great strat, but disagree with the linkin Sphere, Linkin Sphere is great to reconsider in some situations but don't put it as a main item, because you can waste a lot of gold just to counter one skill. For the rest it's a GREAT strat

Nice! : D

Im noob ,will try learing from it

is this fine???
BATTLE FURY, VLADIMIR, HANDS OF MIDAS, BOOTS OF TRAVEL, RADIENCE, CUIRASS

is this fine???
BATTLE FURY, VLADIMIR, HANDS OF MIDAS, BOOTS OF TRAVEL, RADIENCE, CUIRASS

mekansm
power treads
sny
hyperstone
basher

this worked well with me yesterday.

had stout shield and sobi early on.
last slot could be any of those big items like heart. had 407 ms, if prefer ms over as, get BoT instead. 15% stun and 10% maim with degen aura and ~600 heal was pretty good for me.

OK! In 6.49c there is something needed to be changed... Pudge takes no dmg if casted repel on him using root... this is to imba in early and midgame cause omnis aura and root kills nearly everything in a lane... pls tell this anyone you know so it can be fixed in next version

O.o Not bad Not bad. ^^ Btw,how about boots of travel and a assult?

Nice Strat, 9/10, only 9 because i didnt get a laugh out of it next time you make a strategy try to put in a little humor, oh i also found one mistake, you said in the early game section 'ill show screenshots of that later', i don't see any screenshots Other than that great strat.

i would personally go for Valdimir's, Cuirass, and Mekanism for full supporting effect, even though he already had a heal, you can never go wrong with heal or have enough of it.....

dapa pinal tan mo yung vladmirs

















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nice,very nice strat

good strategie but consider getting eye of scady in sted of s&y cuz uve got degen aura and -20% ms from eos u become a human version of broodmother . then buy hex or refresher . and like u said radiance is great

sange and yasha is an orb effect
vlads is an orb effect
orb effects dont stack

vlads...is 1st n foremost not a orb effect...y dont u check the items database b4 u post sumthin stupid

Nice strategy...

I think you can also put assault and desolater

really nice guide.. i only finished vlad, preserverance, 2 bracers, power thread... gg alr... didnt really own... but we got 0 towers destroyed.. i only stayed on to middle and throughout the game only went back to fountain 3 times... once cos died.. other 2 for buying items ^^ i'll give it a 10/10!

no heroes that counters omniknight? btw, good guide! 9/10

@projetile03
read the comments so you know who can counter omni...

@Transfat
nice strat.. i'll try it...

I wiil use this guide if you change the hyperstone into curiass so that the combo of slow and armor reduced

lol nice strategy :) justt like my way i play him:) but.. try getting necrobook and manta for him - why not take advantage of your overpowerered degen aura ? the enemy will have like 5 guys hunting him forever :) he cant run away cus of your aura xD gogogo nice strategy

I think it is really better playing with :
arcane ring
Boots of travel
Vladim's offering
Assault Cuirass
Radiance
Linken's sphere

would repel block auto casting slow spells, heroes like traxex and viper...?

is basher a good item for omniknight?

id get battle fury with vlad, 2xHoT, BoT,

you not really need linken. try to bloodstone

no.. a hero that has guardian angel can be affected by anything!!! they cant be hit by piercing, magic, siege, and spells attack

when you are ganged just cast guardian angel (for physical dmg) and repel (for spell dmg) and you are immortal for nine seconds!! guardian angel boosts armor +1000 lololololol

is perfect

Ok i will try it :)

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LoL 18 seconds of Guardian Angel is no laughing matter... This strategy guide is pure genius. If available maybe some chracters good teammates or even enemies to look out? This would help me a lot because recently my friend likes to used omniknight and i only use int's and he get's immune and kills me. I need a chracter that can counter that.

I've tried Omniknight a few times, and I played pretty well. The item build is similar, in fact, exactly the same!
I don't know if this has been pointed out earlier, but Omniknight can cast Repel on enemies as well. This can be particularly destructive to heroes like Ursa Warrior, who depend on buffing themselves up before taking out a hero. If you cast Repel on Ursa Warrior, he can't cast Overpower or his ulti on himself, leaving him vulnerable. The SnY + Degen Aura combo can finish off anyone.

great job newbie