Roshan's Nightmare
Created by Pocy on 2007-04-03
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not bad...7/10 more improvements can be made =)
Yipee, first to comment....rare privelage for me.STRATEGY RANK:MEGA KILL! This is quite an interesting guide......not bad for noobs.....might help me out as well. RANK:7/10
I like it, nice strat
There is still more you need to talk about but its ok. There are other heroes that can kill Roshan before you reach lvl 11 so dont depend on that. 8/10
Lol you are not first to comment
not a bad strat XD i like the roshan part, but i still think that getting earthshock earlier. you should also get some agi items, dont 4get he is a agi bear!!! nice strat
i like this strat, i think ill try it out one time, vladmirs wont work will it? continuous lifesteal = more damage from ulti for a long period of time due to lesss hp lost
Dude....
Overpower first before Earthshock?
Early Overpower = 5 weak and fast strikes.
And ZOMG you're the one who says atk spd and Earthshock are not needed for Ulfsaar?
Well, I guess I could rate it a 6.7/10
I generally get Earth Shock kinda early but between your guide and the fact I get no kills until lvl11ish I reckon your way is liable to be better. I'm going to try it next time I get Ursa. Your item build is more or less like mine (vanguard - > lothar -> hearts) but I don't think a Battle Fury would be going too far astray, you DO need that mana regen like you said (I think the Fury would be better than a Linkens depending on the situation). And... Ursa should not get the Hood - whos fur is that? Ahahahahahaaa. Good guide, I reckon 10/10 but I DO need to test it out... stuff it I bet it works. 10/10... now.
3 HoTs ?
oh my
too expensive
just think....
3 hots = 100 dmg
plus
2800 hp
so
0.6 x 2800 = 168 dmg LOL
15k gold for that,
now look
butterfly = 60 dmg
plus 30 evasion LOL
and more 60 normal aspd
+
divine rapier = 250 dmg
cheaper than 3 hots and more useful i think, evasion sounds better for ursa warrior , on late games if some enemys try to kill you you will certain die with hots, but lothar with butterfly I think its better because you can run easier...
nice try but I dont agree with you,
i've tested 3 hots and butterfly + divine, i preefer that.
(if you wont buy divine you can try radiance (+8 evasion) and than tarrasque or butterfly, that sounds better)!
nice try
=]
I think, Eartshock can be skill to first levels (1.3.5.7.) its good for start. And what are you forget? BRACERS!!! I think 3 bracers is better than vanguard. My item build is:
Boots of Speed
Bracer
Bracer
Bracer
Power treads
Lothar edge
HoT
Kelen's dagger of escape.
Add some caluclations on:
A: Fury Swipes dmg.
B: Enrage dmg at specific lvls(like 6,11,16 and 25).
It's your guide so i don't want to do it:P. Could be intresting to see.
7/10 I agree with your skill build and getting earthshock on mid game is ok (actually depends on opponents, but it's ok). BUT I strongly disagreee with your BoT offer - +90ms (400) (have in mind that Ursa has 310 base ms which is really high) and PT+Kelen's=+65ms (375)+a chance to chase enemies if your Lothar's is in CD. Another thing about the item build that you forgot to mension is that you might go for Satanic (in place of second HoT) if facing many strenght and heroes who have Blademailed themselves (3Blademails and you do more dmg to yourself than to them). Overall this is a good guide.
Ok i couldn't hold myself and calculeted Fury Swipes: After 5 hits the dmg it has done is 360! That is if the first one adds 24 too or just the attacks that follow. If the second one is correct then 360 is the dmg after 6 blows. The next attack deals 144 extra and the one after that 168 and so on. That's some extreme dmg.
Forgot to say about the Teleportation ability when I compared BoT and PT+Kelen's. Sorry! But still I prefer PT+Kelen's
Forgot to say about the Teleportation ability when I compared BoT and PT+Kelen's. Sorry! But still I prefer PT+Kelen's
"Bash and critical will interfere only on the attack that they bash/critical."
You didnt say that Ursa is actually ranged. Bashers only get a 10% chance to bash, vladimirs offering wont provide you any lifesteal and battlefury wont cleave. In theory, this would also mean that you would get frost attack with an Eye of Skadi. But it only works on buldings... wich is great! Now their ms is slowed!
nice guide...
and yes why not get eartshock and leave overpower..
anyways it's really a nice guide.. and yes 3 tarrasque?? hmm i will put 2 tarrasque and 1 butterfly...
give you 8/10
@TOPAK™ and _noob28_
overpower may not prove useful early... but fury swipes is what makes it that pwning early-mid game.. 5 x 24 = 120+(normal damage x 5) + enrage's extra damage = ouch.. that's only 5 hits
are you a german? wow!.,, interesting!.,,haha!., 8/10
@unholy: LOL how could you kill a hero early game without Earthshock???? A pro enemy will keep out of range of Ulfsaar, so why not get a level of Earthshock? Ok the strat is good but I don't just agree with the skill build.... ok fine 7/10
Massing Hearts on Ursa is what people usually do. Really. I've never even SEEN a Butterfly on Ursa. Bracers over a Vanguard MAYBE but I myself prefer the Vanguard because it has REGEN. And getting both the Dagger AND Lothars is kinda redundant. Like getting Blink Dagger on Bone Clinkz or something.
btw the tango doesnt refill ur hp after some time... so u cant eat the tango, activate overpower n wait for ~5secs.. u will waste 5 secs of the healing time? or the whole tango is wasted?
@TOPAK™
how could you defeat roshan solo when you don't have overpower? i think Pocy named it Roshan's Nightmare cuz if you follow that build, you'll probably kill roshan at level 11, which i already did.. at that time when i was level 11 i already had HoT, BoS, and an aegis on a 2 on 1 fight (i am 1, my enemies were bradwarden and raigor)
my fave hero in dota monster aspd
but my item build is just simple boots and tarrasque onli once youve bought ur 1st tarrasque u will be godlike already and rich to buy another tarrasque....
btw 8/10
I prefer to buy Blink Dagger because u can still be countered by true sight and cheaper but most of all i agree with mass hearts!!! overall poor guide 1/10 LOL!
joke lang
I totally agree with ur strat
The only thing is i think blink dagger would be more appropriate to maximise ur earthshock n another ting is i doubt BoT needed...PT would be better
With fury swipes n overpower u could easily get kills early in the game...so learnin earthshock is not an option
A lil more calculation on dmg would b better 8/10 :)
how bout 2 HoT, 2 Vanguard, 1 Lothars, and BoT? Then lvl. up Earthshock and overpower early and the ulti skill 1st.
Easy kills anyone?
@Topak (9): Early overpower ensures money and is the base for an early lvl 11 Roshan kill. And i Did not say that earthshock isn't needed for ursa, I "prefer" Overpower in the early game.
@ Le.An (11): In my opinion, Divine Rapier is too risky without the old aegis. Ursa is melee, disablers can kill you, without getting hurt by you. I would never include a divine in an item build. And don't underestimate Hit Points in the late game.
@ fortidude (12) Vanguard has nice HP reg, It' s important for me, i Hate Well running and i love the block from vanguard, it's insane!
@ Bruno (15): Yes it's insane ;)
@ nightstalker (24): Yes, but you haven't a cooldown for your second overpower strike! In theory u can activate overpower, then eat and finally attack roshan, but it's enough life reg, i normally can kill him wihtout the tree because i have already some items from lothars @ lvl 11
@ all: Damage calculation will be include soon!
@Pocy : ok ok..... I get it...
@Unholy: Ok...Roshan's Nightmare....
Nice Strat! hah.
Haven't see a ursa guide for quite some time...pretty good guide.
I've sth to add on for overpower, when you are doing a backstab with overpower, time your cooldown properly.
I.e: Cast overpower, wait for about 7 secs (half cd) then you approach your opponent. In this way you can cast overpower immediately after your 1st 5 strikes. 10x fury swipes is very painful.
wow i liked this guide very much, it went into alot of detail and very precise on what steps u want ur readers to do. nice job
just alright..i'll give it a 7/10..just a suggestion, try adding some screenshots to show what you reaLLy mean...
i prefer a blink dagger because it's much cheaper and without counter
@Pocy : Add screenies to 'ensure' your strat.
^^
Great strategy!
Good build. Try going up to the Kobalds neut creep with this build, and attack - it looks like he's literally eating them!!
why dont u get get earthshock? UR MOVEMENT SPEED IS SLOW AS CRAP! ALL OF UR ENEMIES CAN JUST RUN AWAY u need atleast 1 lvl on earthshock... 5/10
B Fly on him Rocks, Gives him the extra damage + Evasion, Also Linkins is a Nice item to build if they have nukers/Stunners
I usually get ES rank 1 at level 1. The slow is good enough to get extra hits on the enemy hero. However I get overpower rank 4 last. Between ranks 3-4 there is only a theoretical difference because the maximum attackspeed you can get is 400%. This also counts your own attackspeed, I think...
I've also tested the vanguard but imo 3x bracer is better. You don't really need the block anyway.
I'm not sayin' that your guide is bad and I'm not flaming it, just giving some thoughts.
Here's a question for you: With this teddy-bear build, who can 1v1 him? (besides permabash)?
@Greedygood
Perhaps Skeleton King.
I played him two times with this strat ... First time i was average (my own fault)'
And the second time i OWNED...
The only thing i miss is Bkb or something
if you're facing heavy stunners/disablers... they run from u othervise ! 9/10
wao!
enrage is not that powerful actually. 6% of 19 is 1.14. so for 1 point of strength you get 1.14 damage if your ulti is on. 1 for 1 with agi. so 20 str opposed to 20 agi will give you less than 3 more damage! (again if your ulti is on). and that is considering your ulti is level 3. at level 1 or 2 a single point of agi gives in fact more damage than str. ursa's strength comes from balancing str and agi. therefore i prioritise butterfly over HoT. and evasion is good for keeping your HP high in battle thus inflicting more damage with your ulti on.
sorry to tell you this but both attacks are ranged, his normal and ultimatebut his ultimate comes right after the first att. cause i kill magina when he blinked from my fury with little life and 0.3 secs later he died from the ultimate so...its more like poison...kinda. ohh and Ursa is the best hero killer!! ooh and interesting fact: with 4000 current life and normal damage 150 (with HoT) when you do your fury (the overpower and ultimate thing) plus earthshock in the end as your finnishing move...in about 3-5 sec you have done 2530 damage and with the 55% slow from the earthshock if they survive that...they better prey
ohh and i agree with your skill build...thats the best way to get fast kills...and we pretty much have the same item build...except i dont get lothars..i get blink in stead to catch up quickly. and 10/10 strategy guide cause the basics are pretty much there..and your right..i don't know why my friends say he's a bad farmer...i agree he is a great hero!!
Your basic ursa guide, not much I can comment on it, good guide.
nice strat 7/10 There is still more you need to talk about but its ok. There are other heroes that can kill Roshan before you reach lvl 11 so dont depend on that.
erm...well i cant comment much im not as pro as the others commenting at ur guide(and im nt gna criticise)er...ok you could update somethings lyk wd wld items u mayb have had when u VS roshan.call me noob if u wish but i kinda BLUURRRR abt the roshan killing part =) but well 9/10
I played a game with you the other day Shimrra_3 Australian right?
My 2 cents:
2 Vanguards - + 600 HP with Ult its +36, +42, +48 not including your total hp, also you get +8 hp regen. Buy in this order, stout shield, ring, Vb, buy as each item asap so you get their boost.
Power Treads- Attack Speed, move speed, get one vanguard
Vlads Offering or Lothars - You should be owning with 2 vanguards and power treads up to you if you want life steal or you want to be sneaky...I like Vlads if you have melee teammates but will go lothar if your opponents are scared of you
Buy in this order
Stout Shield, tangos or ror, then get ring of health, then vb, you have vanguard
Then get boots, after build another vanguard, then build power treads... you should own at this point if you aren't feeding.
ok my bad with the vanguards since his ult is lower its +24 dmg at lvl 6, +30 at lvl 11, and +36 at lvl 16, Keep in mind I'm not calcuating your total hp. At lvl 16 with full life he has about 2000 hp, with his ult thats +120 dmg. Heart is nice but I need kills asap so farming for it is pointless especially if you can own soon and make your opponent put up the white flag. however if you want to make a heart by all means.
nice i did solo him at lvl 12 thoug a bit risky this is because there was a bloodseeker but i got him killed and got the aegis but then i died :P
hehe 8/10
Nice guide...
But Id go perseverence(Linkens later) and use the vitality booster for a HoT instead of vanguard... Thats because you need to use overpower to creep kill and ursa doesnt have very much mana...
The only other problem I have with the strat is needing to heal before every attack... Easy solution:Get a chicken and load him with tangos...
Overall: 6/10
@The Lawyer™
Lol dude, "nice guide" and 6/10??? the only problem you had with it was you disagreed on 1 simple item. for a disagreemnt, should he be knocked down 4 points??? thats just IMO.
travels lothars 3 hearts and hyper best items XD he has over 5000 health and can easily take a whole team.
WOW NICE STRATEGY, URSA IS ONE OF THE BEST HEROZ EVA!!!!!!!!!!! POST MORE MAN!
IMO, according to your build i dont think you can solo Roshan...
EARTHSHOCK why get it MID-GAME.. wat happens if they harrass you in EARLY-GAME it hinders ur leveling (EXP) and I agree that slow is the important thing in that skill
d is a great guide..those who think this guide sucks..then ur a noob..ive alredy tried this guide..the stat build is effective..i can kill roshan when i reached lvl 11 and i already had a vanguard..nice guide dude
with so many stupid kids around this board its really hard to argue reasonably. anyways, great guide man. skill build is perfect, dont listen to the noobs. hot is of course amazing on teddy and in combination with high ms and surprise thanks to lothars ulfsaar can defeat most enemies with ease. dont change anything, the guide is very good.
of course you can solo roshan at lvl 11. just try it. fury swipes works great in that case and you can watch his hitpoints go down blazing fast.
Man this strat rocks all your allies think you are nuts going for roshan (and you can do him as low as 10). one thing i find is i die a fair bit cos you feel so invincible with this dude. alos kelens is pretty good maybe instead of lothars.. or aswel???
This was a very good strat, you took a good amount of time, really thought about what you should do, and most likely tested it yourself, gj. : 10/10
you're european.. why don't i see you getting nulls?? jk, sry about the steorotypeXD. Pretty good guide, but i recommend stacking 4 vita boosters instead
awful
Hey I Preffer kelen than lothars edge! and i dont agree with the overpower and fury swipes first earthshock and fury swipes are more effective for farming and the use of boots of speed in the first minnutes of the game kind of useless you do not have any hp/sp regen
In your strat i will score it 5/10
awts... this is good because this is my strong hero and i just know that in 3rd reborned roshan drops a HoT Thanks
at Lean its good to have HoT than butterfly because it strengthens ur hp and ur ultimate better to have 3 HoT than Butterfly Devine becuase devine is droppable during death its so risky w/ aegis
Two vanguards, treads, and heart = early win.
I tested this multiple times against going vanguard/lothars/heart and double vanguards is much better.
By the time you get your lothars, its at least mid game and the enemies are most likely all pushing together Lothars proves almost useless because there is bound to be a disabler/stunner. You may get a kill, but you'll definetly get killed.
i believe of you. This hero can take down roshan 6.40. Because of its damage. Very crazy. Just enrage & overpower than attack
I've tried 2 Tarasque's, 1 Hyperstone and a Linken.. It's a Godlike..heheh.. But nice strategy..
this hero can take down lucifer for a few second and pudge. I prefer buy sange & yasha, vanguard , 2x HoT , Power Threads and buriza . With S&Y your movespeed increase ( 412 i think ) So that you can chase a hero without problem
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1st item Boots of travel.. no need for earthshock,, it's fo noobs... you can kill and farm without earthshock,, total waste of skill..
I just try with.
Buterfly
HoT
PoT
Buriza
Fury
Mkb
It's Killlerrrrrr
i thimk Ursa is the most powerful hero in the game. i have killd roshan at lvl 7 using him. i think that the best items 4 him are: Vangard, HoT, butterfly, monkey king, power treads, assault cuirass.
i like the guide. gj on it. alot of disagreements with ES to overpower. i will provide an argument with legitimate facts. with fuzzy, your lane matchups will really dictate how u make a guide. EG. try this build laned against a rhasta/mortrid combo. u wont get very far. in a case like that u would most likely ask for help in which case u could make an argument for overpower. but even if u had a partner, ES would still be more effective because of dmg/slow. if u solo, theres only a handful of heroes u could get close to and strike them enough with overpower to kill them. 1v1 against a ranged nuker like zues/lina ES would be way better to kill. once u get close enuf to them that is. if ur against a melee, the ES will keep that hero at a distance cause if he gets close, u can dmg him severely. i like the guide, but i think in this case it was written assuming u get a decent lane matchup, which unfortunately with fuzzy is very very seldom.
If 5v5 apem Start with Stout, 2x clarity, 2x tangos. Even if you're up against nukers, by the time ur done using your 4 tangos you'll easily have enough for the ring.
Two vanguards is dominant. Then another vitality and shoot for reaver. After HoT, go grab a glass of ice tea and stare at your godlike record.
overpower gives you 400% AS
tell me WHY butterfly, treads, hyper, cuirass...?
massive damage with overpower + enrage + fury swipes = kill
ursa warrior only needs a lothar, linken and mkb
veri impressive guide bt the dmf frm ursa in late game is not veri impressive, i suggest u update the guide with more dmg items
sorry for the double post i mean damage items
10/10 Great Strat Just did 15 0 with Ursa Int heroes lvl 15 were owned with just 1 ult 1 overpower
10/10 Great Strat Just did 15 0 with Ursa Int heroes lvl 15 were owned with just 1 ult 1 overpower
@vitorhvc (myself at number 83)
buriza instead of mkb!
for me for early game make bloodstone it will give u all the mana u need and ul get a boost of life which is important cuz ur ulti is dependent on ur life..... the bigger the life the stronger the damage ang in if u got bloodstone u can already kill roshan blodestone is the key to this hero! bloodstone and heart when u have those 2 u are hard to kill and hard to get away from!
i will try dis l8er
is it ok if i buy sacred relic in the middle part of the game?
i like your strat
breakfast, lunch, roshan. i used 3 hot lothars, boots and vanguard. i owned but my beyond godlike reign was cut short when it was dinner time. no match 1v1 with balanar with battle fury, butterfly, S&Y, buriza, powerthreads, and HoT.
balanar casts cripling fear then, oops!im dead. so i got a linken and tracked him down again. balanar casts void then cripling fear, and oops im dead again..
conclusion... avoid balanar!!
mengmeng wtf is up with all the smileys? stupid 9yo.
and u that says butter instead of hot's on ursa have to be stupid. endgame u need as much hp as possible. cuz u will be 1st prioritized by everyone on the opposing team.
nice strat man. works everytime ;)
pochi hidio atanto amato elmundo *che* eniga nitu maitsumo eterna!!
I USED THIS BUILD AND IT WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL! EVERYTHING!!! ITS AWESOME!!! I dunno if I gave this a 10/10 before but I wish I did. OOOOHHH I did. GOOD! I swear, the whole thing, the EXACT skill and item build. AWESOME. Of course, the next game I had Ursa everyone started with goddamned boots of speed
ANYWAY, RE 10/10
lol solo roshan at level 11
i gotta try this
i hate bears"
but when i met UlFsAaR'
he gave me the reason"
now im playing DOTA cause of "him"
we make things look good!!!!
lollerskates, teddy will beat roshan at lvl 11 :P, i hav to try that. seems like a waste of an ulti though, but the aegis drop will makes u untouchable while ur ulti coolsdown. this guide is pretty good, if u look at all the other ursa ones, u will see that i hav been criticism em. killin roshan early will provide u with enough gold to complete one superior item and aegis drop
i think the best item build is like this:
1. heart of tarrasque X 2
2. Lothar edge
3. Buterfly
4. boot of travel
i know its cost so much money but u can kill roshan the 5th time if the game isn't end
Lolz Weaks
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bobo naman biuld up mo gagong taga Germany ka!!!!!!
whoa... nice... 7/10...
i would prefer dagger og escape than lothrs edge....^^
i love this hero he pwns this hero is good
I will check this Ursa baby now
I've tried this build.. ownz everything.. 2-3on1 possible in late game depends on heroes
good work if more detailed i could give u 10/10 .. its 9/10 then :]
dont get a dager lothar is better
woooooooooooooowww it is very very veryyy good hero and strategy
I love it!!
NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR ENGLISH
SO DON'T WORRY.
hey nice guide but still i hav a question how can i avoid being harass by a poison hero in early game like viper and veno
just one problem with this build! faceless void! with mom!
@zantetzuken
void is roshan´s prey
u sneak near him and he is dead before void (low hp bastard) can cast chronosphere
level 3 overpwer level 2 fury swipes and level 1 rage can easily pawn hero early game. I love ursa he is strong equipped with lothars or dagger.
not bad 7/10
wow!
Didn't like the strat, could be made some updates
So Good Tx
great strat
used it, killed roshan at lvl 13 had 700 hp left, bloodseeker lvl 15 came on full health, i kiled him
i base this hero on this strats, helped me become feared
and focused fired
aweful guide
Nice Guide...
Teddy 4 Life! He really rules in 2vs2 -apemom with your strategy. Get a great Rhasta as friend and nobody will stop you!
Well ... i played with ursa for the first time and i have to say that your strategy really works. You have a 10. Ursa is unbelievable. I am not a pro but my score was 17-4. GG
FUCKFUCK
One thing to note, based on this guide, ursa depends on his fury swipe and his increased attack speed from overpower to kill. And note that the damage from overpower and enrage is bonus skill physical damage. That means 2 things, bad news: your damage will get reduced by opponent's armour. Good news: blade mail does not reflect those damages (but still reflects back ursa base damage)
cheers
IMO instead of a stats at level 10 you should get earthshock, it helps incredibly.
yo im new in this game and i like this hero, but i dont relly get his ulti
explain pls
hmmmmm good guide :D but imo depending on how good you are + who enemy heroes are i would get a blink dagger, so u can catch up to soemone running, cuz face it, ursa isnt the fastest runner :D hes a fat speedy bear xD.
also, u can solo roshan at lvl 10 ( i've done it) all you need, is heart of terrasqe and if your a good farmer crys. then you own roshan no problem, just start wif a slam and wait for him to stun, after the stun, turn on ALL skills and just DPS him to death :D. it will relly scare the other team xD
o btw, i would have tried to max out speed then fury swipes, and put at least 1 into slam, 1 into ult so it might take you above level ten, but concept is the same u get to kill roshan at a low level :)
Really good job dude, I think it's great. Some details can be improved but it's all you need to enjoy this hero
Rank: 8'5/10
OK. But man you need to have earthshock much earlier then 12 lvl.
I've tried getting the 3 non-ult skills first then max ult starting at lvl13. It works varyingly, but the thing is that you don't particularly need damage based on your lvl6 hp. Your lvl6 hp isn't great. At least max Overpower and Fury Swipes then get Enrage at lvl9, because it honestly doesn't help as much as the other skills until mid game.
Hey, This guide worked great! Thanks for posting and good luck in future guides
i think you should get the earthshock first... afterall it costs less mana in the early game, and it also causes a lot of damage.. so if u only get it in the mid game... u wont be making much of an advantage to it.
and anyway, i love ursa warrior. ^_^
nice item build but skill build needs to be changed
Wow, never thought of lothar's edge, thanks for that.
blink dagger
2 H.O.T
Travel
enough to own yr ass
this is one of my favorite....i always did a hero kill with this teddy bear...yipeeee!!!!!
i think ursa should avoid terrorblade... life change sucks
bro i suggest that your skill build is wrong.. example in a 5v5 your gona needa the earth shake incase your gona get ganked early game.. also his item build..
2x Vanguards,
Treads
HoT,
lothars
nd bfly .. GG
Ulti .. den over power, keep atking then earth shock when most life is gone and if that dosent kill keep atking... GG
very nice.i hope that this hero came the luck for me.
My item build:
-HoT
-BoT
-Assault Cuirass
-Vanguard or another HoT
-Dagger Of Escape
-Vladimir's Offering
commet to post 140 by ownageiphd
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you forget this build he made IS FOR ROSHAN as primary... and to do him at lvl 11 you need this..
and one of the best build to kill ppls is doing this..
bot
curiass
lothars
3 hots
the way to go max out life since his ulti do more dmg the more hp he got...
Vladimir's Offering FTW!
not bad...7/10 more improvements can be made 8)
More attack speed = more stacking fury swipes = more damage = more kills = Beyond GODLIKE!
Its true...
I would add Satanic and Assault Cuirass in late game, if you have problems killing, which i doubt:) (Then you'll just be 2x beyond godlike!) Buriza would be nice too, but either way, you'll be owning with Ursa.
My ideal Ursa items (not in order):
HoT
HoT
BoT
Butterfly/Assault Cuirass (Both too expensive)
Satanic
Buriza
A friend of mine said Basher is an option, but, you have earthshock which won't let your opponents escape easily.
Nice guide though, it gives a nice idea of what Ursa is.
Roshan can be killed by ursa at level 8 with 1 vanguard, 2 bracers, tango and flask.
?
flask dispels on attack, or not?
oi oi i just tried this hero and he didnt fail me. my build for him was 2 bashers, pwrthreads, bfury.. im such a CREEP cos i dint put HoT but ill put 2 on him given the time and money. that would be sadistic. how many hp do you get per str pt?? lemme know please?? tnx!
oh and a cuirass.. yosh!
hymm how is he ranged and how does he have splash i like how u told uus but i dont understand how he has splash but the range is still unclear
cool man? i like ur build man,hardly play ,but cool ,owange late game man.Great
cool man? i like ur build man,hardly play ,but cool ,owange late game man.Great
Very good. I like the way on how you insisted about roshan and stuff. IDGI why hes so uber at killing roshan.
3 tarasque ???
wow!!! thats incredible,, but i think you need mre tarrasque,,
my build s kinda different.. but u can kill using it by lvl 4:
lvl 1: furyswipes
2: overpower
3: fury swipes
4: earthshock
Nice guide. The solo roshan by lvl 11 does work .
lov e it
exactly how i build him
i agree, nice strat... 6/10
Nicely Done !! But I would agree that i'd prefer Earthshock earlier in the game and buy Butterfly for added ASPD and DMG
vanguard is ok. but i prefer three bracers (life + damage + a little mana) really helps early game.
he look a nice ero
good work , i tried this and i came in 2nd place ::i give it 9 out of 10 stars::
i prefer boots of travel,3 heart of tarasque , lothar's edge , buriza.
imagine a big bear with 5k hp surprisingly attacks you with 8% of his life is dealt as damage and has also critical it's equals 400 damage+ his fury swipes and it has a chance to critical up to 800 so if you sum it all up it's about 2k of damage and if all atks do critical it's about 4k...it's simply powerful
very good strat
i think u must buy vladmir's offering and linken sphere so dat u wont get hit by magical attacks and bcoz ulfsaar attacks fast he can also get hp from his attacks.
its alright tho it could be better
I prefer kelen's dagger of escape over lothar's edge...
wat agood giude!!
If you didnt know there are 4 secret shops. 2 of them u can buy a stout sheild. one at the top left hidden in the trees (Scourge side of the river) & one in the bottom left corner also in the trees (Sentinal side of the river)
maybe u should have named ursa the ugly teddy bear
Ursa is nice hero..
For me, item for ursa is:
-Power treads
-Vanguard
-Hood of difiance
-Kelen dagger of escape
-Tarasque2x
Ursa is nice hero..
For me, item for ursa is:
-Power treads
-Vanguard
-Hood of difiance
-Kelen dagger of escape
-Tarasque2x
This is really nice strat...I just pwnd some guys..
lol great strategy but tango is 90 gold..great strat
ursa is ranged? RLY?
weakedsick will be there!!
cool men ursa is one of my favourite hero
i'm having trouble with this hero i mean i have to give up boots to get heart and thats by lvl 12 or more before isolo rosh...and this hero is pretty slow in attack speed by itself or maybe it's just me i dunno
Good... But I can kill roshan in lvl 6...
Peace
I like you
@184 - It's just you. Overpower at lvl 3 gives u the fastest attack speed at char lvl 5. Faster than any hero possible. With overpower at level 4, it becomes really overpowered when the speed is nerfed by the limits. You are supposed to use the 5 hits sparingly knowingly. With fury swipes, it could easily decimate any hero easily, provided they dont disable or run.
A very useful remark for skill build: if you have a passive skill that boosts your damage (i.e fury swipes), ALWAYS choose this skill as first one. if you start with overpower and activate it at begining levels, you run out of mana quickly and return to base. instead use your passive skill, enjoy it free.
for the item build: your seems useful but not ultimate. start with power treads, bracer x 3, vanguard. then buy your holy messerschmidt and turn it into a HoT. After this, you can choose 2 options following according to your enemy heroes(don't sell your bracers for money.sell them when you need slots in your backpack for new items)
1-Return damage with armor increase: if you have heavy str heroes as enemy (magny,barat etc).use blade mail(s).
2-Splash damage: Battlefury will be a good choice for your high speed high damage attacks. Especilally use against geomancer, naga siren and phantom lancer
3-Critical damage: With your high attack speed, you can score very high critical damage. (Recommendation: Accompany buriza with a helm of dominator to increase your hp generation.) use against low hp high damage heroes like lich,mortred
4-Basher: A unique shock oriented strategy developed for abaddon,rikimaru,nerubian assassin, nerubian weaver and terrorblade.(Recommendation:use double bashers, perma bash in terminology, combined with critical)
Have fun.
Pictures plz and ty
7/10
Pictures plz and ty
7/10
haha roshans nightmare? a venomacer with maxd out wards kan take him on. thats a really low level. hes roshans nightmare
@188 - Sorry but I find some of the things you mentioned are not really suitable. Here's my 2 cents (do not feel offended kay?)
1 - Blademail is only effective against melee, and Ulfsaar isn't really made in his build to let his opponent hit him. His aim is to quickly hit (with lothar/blink dagger) and kill. I'll rather aim for blink dagger or lothar, a blademail is a pure no-no.
2 - Battlefury is a good idea against Anti-melee hero but you got it all wrong. It deals cleave damage not splash. Splash is ranged and takes account of each and every target's resistance while Cleave is melee and takes account of only primary target's resistance. And also fury swipes only affect primary target.
3. Buriza is highly recommended, no seconds about that. HOWEVER, helm of dominator/satanic is no-no (Are you even sure you know how to use Ulfsaar?). Unless you really want to screw up the fury swipes that badly (orb effects dont stack), you will want go for vladmir's offering (yes, lifeleech without orb effect plus mana increase)
4. Basher is effective when unit has strong base speed, apparently, Ulfsaar has an extremely strong speed increase with overpower. Personally, I prefer killing than disabling as the blink dagger, double overpower (10 hits) should have permanently disabled (aka pwned) my target. Of course, there are always chances of opponents overcoming the 10 hits.
=)
Who would have guess!
And I think one more weakness is that his skills are for meelee heroes and creeps so if he used his skills, he still needs to get close but sorry for him, he is bee shooting by ranged heroes, but lothars, so expensive so I still prefer dagger over lothars because its cheap and even though butterfly is expensive, he still need it especailly the attribute and the attack speed. And hoods, I think you should only used it with some heavy nukers but I don't really prefer to buy it since sometimes, he dominates anyway even w/o a HoD. And don't always put some HoT just like that! YOu should consider some items too.
waaaaaaah nice what the heekk!
I made a mistake in my previous post.
You can't use buriza with fury swipes as it cancel swipes when it happen.
no vlads?
clear things up since some of you dont seem to get it..basher and mkb reset fury swipes so WTF u guys just watsed a skill!!! no point of basher or criticals or anything!!
Not bad 8/10
Not bad 8/10
i think you should go boots, vanguard, and vlad ( then treads O_O) just saying :D
wew i like your way to think,,when you said:"Very skilled players put some sentry wards near Roshan, to see if someone trys to kill roshan."
it'sust looks like me..haha
but nice strat.you're making this bear into a powerful killer.
i give you 9,5/10
Those who want to kill heroes,
Stat build
1. Overpower
2. Fury Swipes
3. Overpower
4. Fury Swipes
5. Overpower
6. Fury Swipes
7. Overpower (Yes, 4th level is nearly unnecessary as maximum IAS = 400 but still the full boost is still better than near full boost and we can totally ignore treads, STR treads totally)
8. Fury Swipes
9. Enrage
10. Earthshock
11. Enrage
12. Earthshock
13. Earthshock
14. Earthshock
15. Stats
16. Enrage
17-25. Stats
Why earthshock late?
Firstly, if you spent hmm 500 on boots of speed, and with the original 310 move speed, few heroes can run from Ursa.
You can pretty well kill, overkill, by hitting the heroes with 1-2 hits and run them down with overpower. Let them hit you first and retaliate with 2 normal hits before u blast overpower.
Remember, wait till lvl 2 fury swipes kicks in before swiping the enemies with overpower and watch them die.
You will always need a stout shield to tank the first few hits.
i think ur guide is nearly perfect:) my skillbuild is:1.FW2.OP3.ES4.FW5.OP6.ENRAGE7.FW8.FW9.OP10.OP11.ENRAGE12.-14.ES15.stats16.ENRAGE17.-25.stats.....u forgot to add an imba item 4 ursa:VLADIMIRS OFFERING the lifesteal isnt an orb 4 meleeheroes they changed him in v6.44 this is too imbalifesteal and u could add a blink dagger for chasing heroes like Spirit breaker,anti-mage...really nice strat
NICE one dUde i liked your strat!!

Sure Roshan kill at level 11!!!
I tried it already.
But the skill build is slightly wrong..
You need earthshock after 2 overpowers..
And Kelen is better tha lothar i think...
But if you are a good farmer, lothar is the better choice...
-ar ed got ursa looked him up.....gg 35/5 kill ranking:HOLY SHIT TRIPLE KILL lol good guide 10/10
PERFECT!! THANKS MAN!!!
You look like a teddy bear now...
comment part2:
YES, YES, YES.
U know how to kill roshan easily. i'm impressed. u also know some of ursa's item build. BUT......
Do u know how to eat an oreo cookie???
YEAH NICE STRATS...
You look like a WHITE RABBIT
PROUDLY PINOY..!!
Wait.. PINOY KA BA!?
I love this hero man.. It's one of the best heroes in the game... and I found out an excelent item for Ursa. Vladmir Offering.. it provides lifesteal from your fury swipes buffer and enrage.. so, the roshan part... if you have power treads and vladmir... you will kill roshan and problaby get away with full health... try it later... (tested in 6.49b)
in lane choosing u said the shop lane, so if u are sentinel the left one. and you said that u have to return to the shop for a stout shiled, but isn t there another shop in the left upper corner? i think u can buy it there also
good items guide. Yeah roshan is easy for ulfsaar but there is a simple law for that hero. Wins all meele heroes.
dies of all range heroes.
I think sphere and lothar's help you win the range ones.
Helps me out... your builds ok but skill build is wrong. also item build.....if you wan t to chase get BoT. IF you dont want to include Earthshock in your build. i suggest you get 1-2 levels of Overpower early game then focus on your Swipes and EarthShock. if you have a nice attack speed but low damage...... probably have no effect T_T thats why get it after ur level 2 special.
hmmm,disagreed with item build and item not to get.i get butterfly to ursa over the third heart and sometimes vlads over van as it provides mana regen.basicly,i believe that sustaining survivability is as good as having a bulk of them.BUT, i did learned something,ursa can solo roshan at LVL 9 not 11,given youre lucky and found regen rune when you go to tango.10/10
Well i`m agree about he is one of the best hero killer in Dota but he needs a Stun or a Disable to complete this job.
Your item build well i make Vanguard, BoT, Dagger Escape, HoT or Linken and most important BKB.
The skill build is ok but i think that Overpower lvl 4 is not needed.
PD: your best partner is Rhasta
i'm confused.. is mom needed? oh well! nice guide
Ehm, i have a question.
how about if the Ursa's item is Buriza Do Kyanon ??
Is that will effect to his enemy ??
What do you think??
Ehm, i have a question.
how about if the Ursa's item is Buriza Do Kyanon ??
Is that will effect to his enemy ??
What do you think??
MY first fight with Roshan will be the best attack/combo.
I once use Lanaya. I use a combo:
> refraction (activate if you don't have refraction)
> meld ( if you are being hit )
> hit him and he will have a deduction armor point.
Repeat the same old process but you must have a higher mana points but you will have s fast mana regen.
i use atleast 1 bashers when im ursa and i promise u its needed if u wanna continue own in late games
great strategy ursa is my favorite hero but my build is almost like your build exept i choose "earth shock" once as my first skill (as esape or help for hero killing)
Lol, its fun to see how many noob reactions are givin to this wonderfull strategi.
"why not getting agi items and Earthshock? The fury whipes are so weak". ZOMG u get extra dmg and speed with ur skills (like pocy said) even at lvl 2 u get + 30 dmg after overpower.
Its funny to see how many ppl are making things up, they think is better but is already pwnd by pocy's statements
i find this an excellent guide from some1 who is not afraid looking further then just giving butterflies to agi heros becouse it is an agi item.
Gj !
oMG NICE STRAT
this is my first time using 'teddy bear' and i got 16-3
and i just folo what u say here xD fun fun i was lvl 9 and there was a prophet lvl 12 (i farm slow casue of the harrasers) and boom i backstab him and KO 5 hits(and less) and when they try to gank me i get a double kill instead!!!
i reli wanna thank u
stay cool always and if can add me MelodyOfEclipse@hotmail.com
make more guides like this dude
@226 - Er it's not just 30 additional damage from the 5 swipes. It is +6 on first hit, +12 on 2nd, +18 on 3rd, +24, +30, a freaking 90 additional damage from 5 hits... and a sixth hit will go +36, seventh +42... which is why Ulfsaar is extremely scary once you maxed fury swipes and have lvl 3 or 4 overpower.
why not attack already if you casted overpower?
get blink dagger better den lothar
I love your guide
But 3 HoTs are pretty expensive... why not a butterfly, you're agility based and a divine rapier? It's cheaper and has more damage. But, on the other hand, the HoTs add to Ursa's ulti... Anyway, great guide! 9/10
PS: would be 10/10 if you gave a little bit more explanation. Nothing's wrong with your english btw.
@fighterfiery:
Blink dagger doesnt do anything other than a short teleport. Since ursa is an agi hero, why get dagger since it's 2k just for a 25 sec cooldown blink? Besides, Ursa could save the 90mp required for it for something else isnt it?
the skil build is made to kill roshan at level 11!!! This is for all noobs that sad that the skill build is not good!!! The strategy is great maybe a litle bit changes at the items in the late game;)
11/10 for this strategy !!!
11/10 for this strategy
can i put dagger baecause lothars can be seen by gem
Great strat i used it every time i use ursa.Make new ones because i owned with ursa i wanna own with other heros to kk Bye
lol, awesome strat, my usual build for ursa would be about the same but with a different skill build, Vladmir's offering would work well with the 12% lifesteal you get that can make ulti attacks even better. And Kelen's dagger of escape is what I usually use.
Trying out this strat the next time I play with Ulfsaar. 10/10 for now
nice strat....
try dagger+lothars+BoT...un di kana mamatay...boy takbo...jok lang po
8/10
galing po talaga ni ursa...
try to think of this po..
with lothars and HoT.pde na pang killing streak un..lakas nyo na..with this rate sa pagpaslang, buy 2 divines agad.(by this time may aegis na kayo dapat, lagay sa manok. pde 3)..kill nyo lahat na humaharang...
teddy bear ownes!!!!!
WOOOOOO alright this is the best guy in DOTA HE ROSHES HIMSELF which really helps the team to win. I reckon if you rosh about the fourth time, you will win the game.
He kills people very quickly all he has to do is just overpower, enrage
and a few hits and WAZAAM the guys is dead. i give this strat a 9/10
And you should also put vlads in the item build as well
may be you should show also you screenshot.
because picture can tell more.
yeah!!! I should try this
so weak thin monster
ok, so first of all, you never ever need agi items on ulfsaar. look at his ulti. strength win out because of his ridiculous damage from health bonus. dont bother with b-fly its kinda worthless for him. hearts are better, and why earthshock so late? the early game nuke is great, it is spammable, and for the defensive player, the slow can make for an easy escape.
i like the new type of comment boxes lol... 7/10... its ok... but u can still change some stuff
I have tried the strategy and it definitely works .. at least till late game
. I get a HoT (or a HoT and a half) at some point and the game ends. the question is how do u get the other 3 HoTs ? ? Its hell a lot of money .. or u play "em" ?
nice strat I'll give u 8/10
This hero is So F*cking unstoppable if you know how to use him, Damn!. Just a played a game 18/2 w/l ratio. 2 deaths because of all the heroes (4) ganked me and I had a useless team. WWWWOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW i love this hero.
just make the powertreads , battlefurry, and 4 heartoftarrasque..
one question why not a basher??
one question why not a basher??
bash cancels fury swipes..
how about satanic? lifesteal+hp+atk instead of a HoT?
sweet strat
tae
i lyk the item build its right get the earthshock last.
But i disagree in the items because ursa just nid high hp 4 his last skill and not lvl 11 killing roshan even lvl 8 up can
my items is
threads,vladmir,2xtarrasque,butterfly,satanicjust find the 8% of his lyf i guess its 400 up...
i like it too
lotar`s edge can be countered by wards or gem of true sight
y not kelen`s dagger??
bravo... thks alot
nice strat...dude.
hey did u try putting vlad's offering to ursa's build?? the lifesteal rocks...
try this build 4 ursa:
BoT
Vlad's offering
lothar's edge
2x vanguard (if farming fast...)
HoT
juz try dis guyz...
If u get vladimirs offering with fury swipes and over power lvl 4 you can solo rosh at lvl 7 or 8 if u want ult 1st.
good build.......
aw
This is a pretty good strat and can be an ownage game depending on the heros you fight and how they play
man why dont u buy vladimir?
with vladimir that is very cheap in 6.50 . last day i was playing i baught vitality booster and vladimir and i killed roshan at level 7
cooolllll heroo
nice strat!i tried and none of my freinds can kill me!!!nice one
psofiste
very nice guide i give you 910 ,i love veladmir on ursa
it's an okay guide but nof for pros they have better guide i give 8/10
it's an okay guide but not for pros they have better guide i give 8/10
This strat is very useful i owned my frenz totally
good strategy
buy ring of reg first, then complete vladmirs and get boots of speed and u can solo roshan at lvl 9 without problems ( lvl 4 swipes, lvl 4 overpower, lvl 1 ulti ) i think i did it once with lvl 8. boots are of course not neccassary to kill him
omfg.. This hero is brilliant... I played wid him in a 3v3 ai+ insane match to test him out.... And went beyond godlike... Next day played a 4v4 wid my mates... Screwed their ass like shit!!!! Holy shit, to be precise.... I love this guide... Owned roshan 4 times in one match... I think the item build is perfect for this guy... Thanks a bunch...
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