The Shaman of the Shadows
Created by Vandros526 on 2007-04-07
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How do you fit 20 items into 6 spaces?
If you put Magina for Blink, what about Akasha- queen of pain.
why did you put voodoo??
you dont have enough mana to used that..
well..in early game you can buy arcane ring so that you can use your voodoo..
you can also change RoR in late game to Linken sphere...
anyways nice guy.. 7/10
just be content with fork lightning and shackles early game, its more than enough, and go for and eul first before soul booster, it helps with hero killing
sorry for the double comment, but what i meant was to cast cyclone on the person and plant the wards directly on the cyclone circle, like in most other guides
yeah, agree with icyferno i use the same technique, and what made me really mad or maybe just disapointed is having soulbooster first than eul's!!!
then how can you have enough mana for combos?!? not even a ring of basillus!!!! damn!!! ehem..... overall poor guide 1/10
joks...
Since this is a very expensive build the better thing to do is to get the forked lightning early so that you will get more last hits.You can also use it to harass.
I would take Forked Lightning in early game.You don't need Voodoo so early,and can you afford to give 200 mana?
@ Chris - the 20 items are mostly items used to turn into items like Guinsoo's, which needs multiple items to finish it up. At the end you have 6 items.
@ Millenium - the Wards (43 dmg X 8 = more than 300, which is the dmg of the lightning, so u can kill faster if you have wards. If wards arent set, dont kill anyone.
BTW everyone, you would have enough mana for voodoo/shackle/wards if u finish the booster, or just get energy booster first instead of vitality.
6/10 dats wad i giv,u didnt mention about the art of warding with cyclone and buying all the items in one match cost too much for shaman, and if you get voodoo first why get a eul's?
@ PureDude - Eul's is for making Guinsoo's, which lets you double hex earlier.
Post calculations regarding mana and damage.
Overall - Kinda Good. 7/10.
Without Fork Lightning early game, you don't have any cheap harass skill. And btw Voodoo has very high mana....110 at lv1 for 1 sec.
Try building Eul's MAN!!!!
@TOPAK i think xPureDudex meant that you can just cast voodoo on the person and place the ward on him, a skill which even i had not mastered yet...
nice, expensive build though. is it just me though, or would you be out of mana after the first mass serpent ward when pumped and refreshed. Beware of mana leak, it will leave you MANALESS
i think you should sell the RoR and buy something else..
No Voodoo early game, shackles is enough if you are going for a tower pot shot kill, forked also helps in farming, as a spell caster, you SUCK at last hitting and denying, so forked makes it a lot easier. Voodoo also costs a whopping 200 mana at level 4, not advised....
ALso, cyclone is very useful, and in a way, better than the hex guinsoo offers, it makes it a HECK of a lot easier to ward trap heroes, cyclone--->ward trap. And you can take on 2 heroes with it.
denying forked also denies your only nuke/farming skill...overall ok/above average guide. nice job
9/10
change the ror to HoT Cause rhasta has low health
i think blink dagger is useless... and this build looks awfully familiar to the one the AI uses... and you forgot about the whole Eul's scepter and mass serpent ward combo. a radience is pretty nice since you can shackle a hero and they'll recieve additional damage. a 7/10
Great Strat! I can see why you choose each and every item for this hero. Rhasta doesnt get alot of kills, but he is more of a helper. And you explained how to help well.
cool... but doesn't include cyclone + mass serpent ward combo...
Like the other guys said: Consider Eul's, the cyclone is a "free ward trap" that takes 0 skill. Just blow the enemy into the air (cyclone) and move your cursor under him (you will see a red circle) and then click wards. Voilá, he is surrounded by wards. This can be done without an Eul too (on a moving target, too) but it requires a) skill b) good connection.
Your build hasn't got any major (even tho I don't like to get voodoo that early, because the manacost is astronomical) flaws imo, it's pretty good, even thought I like the necronomicon way more.
I know its hard to make a strat these days.. u always have to make it better than the other guides that came in first. (not exactly)
This guide is not one of them..
However this offers some ideas.
Ive seen the guide with the Eul's Scepter and Serpent Combo. Maybe you could add this to your guide aswell..
Its better to buy less expensive items before buying your core items..
Ring of Basi, Arcane Ring, Some Nulls maybe, Etc..
Farming and strats are ok.. But i think you should re-think the items..
A good guide but needs tweeking.. 3/10
I think its best if you buy Aganhim's late game.. or after enemies get items that make ur serpent wards feel like sentry wards (vanguard, soulbooster, HoT, etc.)
Try farming for a Guinsoo's,
Or maybe a Dagon for beatdown enemies?
horrid mana build here. I honestly want to know how you pull off the combos you post here when you obviously do not have enough mana to do so early/ earlymid game. THIS IS BLASPHEMY! THIS IS MADNESS!!!! THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
seriously bad guide. 1/10.
Panda makes a very good point...Your combo early game is Mass Serpent Ward-->Shackles---->Voodoo---> Kill. The total mana it take to pull that off is 585 MANA!!!! Your starting items are RoR, Boots of Speed, and...vitality booster...seriously, just get a bracer or too, and focus on mana and mana regen. Well, you might argue that the amount of int Rhasta takes every level might be enoough. Let's look at the stats....
Rhasta:Shadow Shaman
MP:273 Int Gain per lv:3
3 int is equal to 39 mana points per.lets say you try kill at level 6, 6*39=230 that will be equal to...around 500 mana. In my opinion if you're gonna pull of shackles/voodoo over and over you're gonna need more mana and mana regen. I don't know how you pull off those combos you posted in the guide when the statistics show its IMPOSSIBLE.
Also I don't know how you can expect to have enough money for soul booster by end of early game with no forked lightning..
Anti-Mage isn't actually so bad, you don't depend on hard core nuking spells, your wards deal peircing damage so it does a stable 50% to all heroes [i think] and can't you just shackles to stop from blink? it'll be easier wif a teammate, you don't hafta take him on alone, and if he blinks toward you for early game harrassment just shackles him and let the tower do the work...i agree on your distaste for Rikimaru, maybe some counters could prove nice...
euls sucks it contains only six charges save for kelen at early game. heres the combo: remember the element of suprise
1.blink
2.voodoo
3.wards
4.shackles
curses i mean SURPRISE ! ! !
RHASTA IS GOOD BECAUSE THIS HERO IS A COMBO BASED IT EXERCISES YOUR FINGERS
Your guide sucks. You just provide vague pub game strategies, eventhough there are way better strategies available.
Have you tried using necronomicon?
buy lothar's edge instead of dagger 7/10
health and ms no good weak hero to me
yeah. Guinsoo + Voodoo = Double Hex.
Anti Mage? Just buy Linken Sphere.
Not a bad strat
havin a eul's early game will make ur build a shackles den forked lightning,if ur build is a shackles hex an eul's early will nt be neccessary,it is more advisable to rush for a aghanium instead
for allies ursa warrior is really good with rhasta. Rhasta shackles and ursa goes and attacks the enemy with his overempower and enrage
i will definitely try your build.. the problem is, im not an excellent farmer
@andilon123
"Eul's Suck because they only have 6 charges, save for Kellens early game"
And how do you supposed you're gonna have enough mana to pull all that off you just said? "only contains six charges" any more and it would be really cheap, what were you expecting? 8 charges? 10 charges? 6 charges is enough to at least get you 4-5 kills, cyclone------>ward trap, it seems like you are saying Kellens will help in gank, quote "voodoo, wards, shackles" with Eul's its tons easier and with voodoo wards you need to be really skilled, have good connection, and what bother's me most, luck. WIth eul's its so simple a CAVEMAN can do it.not to mention kellen's offers a grand total of ZERO to Rhasta's INT and offers nothing else except an unneeded blink. Also, farming for 2200 gold is really hard, look at components for Eul's wizard staff [1000] void stone 900 and robe of magi 450, all easy to farm for.
Why the dagger? Ive found the best build if you can farm all of that is bloodstone aghs guinsoo refresher, a bloodstone instead of the dagger is in my opinion a much better bet and a couple thousand more.
I'd start hero killing (in mid-game) by voodooing. Then it's easy for you to put wards around him/her. When voodoo ends, shackle him/her. Ally is also good to have with you.
rush the eul's scepter w/ rhasta, and then do the cyclone-ward combo, cyclone them then when you cast wards click on the cylcone, the wards will surround the cyclone and trap the hero inside. then, shackle the hero so that he cannot knock down the serpents and escape, and then fork lightning for the kill.
STRATEGY RANK: MEGA KILL. With the large amount of strategies these days.it's really hard to make a strategy outstanding. However, this is still quite good except for the item build.
You won't even have enough mana to pull of these combos. And if Magina is there and you've got a lot of missing mana, you're dead 
@chickenchaser
That is exactly my point as well. you don't have enough mana, so i dont kno why you said to do the things you listed there in early game....
One other thing, i dont think its good to waste your ulti trying to push the tower, i mean, if its just regular pushing its fine...pushing faster is great, but don't waste your ulti to do it, if you had necrominion book maybe pushing with wards could be possilbity since while killing necro's could substitute for wards.
nice strat..
eul is goof item for rhasta,,before booster,i prefer kellens first..
rasta + blink = killer...
Very Good...Thanx
I usually grab Aghanims straight off. If I can, without Boots. Alright, you know what you're doing, you made a good guide here with lots of small details that I generally miss, and its funny. 'Mass Serpent Wards - Don'ts: Use against a small wave of Creeps' lol. 10/10
lmao nice BLINK.. i neva thought of dat!!
In early games, it better to have at least 2 Nulls to provide you with enough mana to use the forked..its the best way for you to farm at the same time harrass hero...remember rhasta have a slow attack rate and range..before you get your last hit..creep might have it already..just forked!
oh this stratehy is totally crap!!... imagine casting the wards and then "forked lightning"? ow common!! the enemy can escape before you can shackle the enemy.. and how about when the enemy used kelen's dagger of escape?? what will you do??
oh this stratehy is totally crap!!... imagine casting the wards and then "forked lightning"? ow common!! the enemy can escape before you can shackle the enemy.. and how about when the enemy used kelen's dagger of escape?? what will you do??
ican really counter that if iam a noob in dota
*yawn* im not sayin anything but where is teh guide author? in the first posts he was around answerin and now...he's disappeared
i would really like some answers on to how (this is addreseed to guide author) you would haf enough mana to cast your combo WITH NO MANA GEAR (early game).
some more stuff to point out..."more clearly"
1. Anti-Mage is not worst of all, sure blink but that is for any kinda blinker, not just anti mage, wards to peircing damage, not spell damage so spell sheild does not reduce ward damage...so idk why u said anti mage worst. i say Chen worst, his buddies will make it very hard since Furlbarg and Centaur are his number one targets and they can Both stun you.
2. u said if creeps are up to exterior tower do not push yet, i think you should take advantage of the creeps hitting the tower and auto attack it, cuz even if YOU don't push, the creeps are already doing it, so it really won't matter.
3. i disagree with the don't of Forked Lightining, "dont spam" its being asked to be spammed against creeps and heroes for harrasment. and the do " kill heroes".....sorta obvious
4. on fleeing, "if one hero chasing, run" "if two heroes chasing" run, if three heroes chasing "try to kill weakest one" WHA!?!?!??!?! so if theres THREE heroes chasing its ok to attack one?
5.IMO the item build is more like a dream build to me, you probably won't even get far as Refresher, or even Anghaims. Have you tested and have gotten this item build on most games?
6. Kellen's Blink dagger of Escape, a very good item for Rhasta IMO and you listed it in the item build...but no mention in the actual guide, i looked at the "fleeing" sections and i ilooked at the guide and i saw nowhere blink was mentioned.
*whew*. (i did not intentionally...well..intend this to be flaming, i just wanted to point some things i thought didn't make sense, ( im sorry if you take it as a personal insult). please dont.
Thanks.
Conclusion: The Key to making any good guide is to personally test it out on real games so you have a realistic guide points and tips. I think if you played regular game it would be hard to farm up item build and do things you say to do in this guide. I suggest mebbe playing and testin our Rhasta a lil more and if you make a guide off that it will be sure to get better ratings.
Peace.
Ok, to back up my statement about item build, here is total cost:
22225 Gold (not including tangos, flasks, or any other consumable)
You got lv4 lightning (your only farming skill) at level 14. so you have technically 11 levels to get (assuming you got some money early game, lets say 1000) 21225 gold. wow.
good
@transfat
omg you're very obseervant.. if i may ask have you made any strategies yet?? because i would really love to read yours
Hi Toinkskie,
It's at the bottom section of the front page, second to the last i think.
link if you cant find it,
http://dotastrategy.com/strategy-3203-PuristThunderwrathOmniknight.html
Posted by Chris
2007-04-07
How do you fit 20 items into 6 spaces?
If you put Magina for Blink, what about Akasha- queen of pain.
oh my.. shackles and voodoo early game.
forked-shackles is definitely the way to go. why?
you need shackles as a combo for wards. and its better than voodoo (voodoo costs tons of mana).
fork is your only farming skill. besides, fork damage > physical hits while enemy is voodooed.
and eul's cyclone is necessary for ward trapping especially when you're a beginner (do you even know what ward trapping is?).
your guide seriously lacks strategy. you're saying that when pushing, to just use mass wards on towers then be cautious of heroes that may backstab you, in which case you should just blink away.
"IMPORTANT - FARMING IS THE KEY TO FINISHING THE ITEM BUILD."
this can be found as its the last sentence in mid game.
"Just use Forked Lightning when creeps are weak. Otherwise, you don't have to farm."
huh, i think these two contradict each other.
i believe this is a strategy if the game is too good for u from the beggining to the end and what about bloodseeker he can silence u also so be more realistic
Real nice guide. Neat and not insanely messy. All builds reasonable but i would prefer pumping Forked lightning to Voodoo
i see the point to the build you are using but i dont like it for 2 big reasons. #1 your item build is ridiculous enough to farm and without going forked lightning early you will have a hard time early/mid game. also, your early item build has no items that build your mana pool so voodoo/shackle early is pretty useless unless u have a partner. #2 if u have one of those pesky harassing heroes, nuking them and creeps may be the only way to farm as well as harass them back. one further comment. i dont like guinsoo's if you plan on making refresher, the game would likely be over by the time you made it. and not dying is a little bit hard unless your team is owning in which case the game will be over long before you complete that build.
transfat i been reading alot of forums and i like your insights, you seem to share alot of the same opinions i have. id like to see more guides from you. also what server do you play on??
@ Transfat about the price of Kellers and Euls lol. You miscalculated. I just wanted to point out your mistakes cause you seem to point out every little mistake to the guy who made this. Euls is 1000+450+900=2350 and kellers is 2200? Durka Durka. Get real. Oh and if someones alrdy pointed this out i don't care.
Oh and also. About the items they look perfectly fine to me. The way to put the skills were more brainy than a stupid euls trick. Who wants easy? Not me. I want some competition. Voodoo may be costy but in the right order they work. And i've been able to farm all of his items plus more. Just don't suck so hard. Very Nice Build Vandros 10/10
Ok lemme clear that up... components for eul's are easy to farm for because they come in small increments of gold. 1000, 450...900...and they give you what you need, mana and mana regen. but if you go for kellens you are spending most of your early AND mid game farming for it becuase guide author did not get forked maxed out until level 14 (i think)..
i hope i cleared that up.
ok what the hell were you thinking when you decided to put ring of regeneration in your inventory. it just doesnt fit there all by itself
I think he just got tired after working on this guide for so long. Because yeah ror needs to be sold for something better. Like perserverance. But when i playu with rhasta i do go Forked and Shackles and don't get voodoo till late game. Cause i get Sheepstick pretty early. Yeah you cleared that up Transfat, but 2150 is the actual price of kellers and to tell you the truth its not that easy to farm for.
this works...very well
ahhh... great.. nice item - that's wat i using when playing rhasta... but isn't it a waste of mana using voodoo in early games? it's not helpful.. better get shackels than voodoo...
^^^^^guide author got shackles.
EuL's,MassSerpentWards,NEcromonicon,
MantaStyle Select all units o urs then vodoo attack if the vodoo is gone shackles note: select ur wards then rightclick it to the target the hero enemy must be inside the wards/stuck
GOOD LUCK !!!
EuL's,MassSerpentWards,NEcromonicon,
MantaStyle Select all units o urs then vodoo attack if the vodoo is gone shackles note: select ur wards then rightclick it to the target the hero enemy must be inside the wards/stuck
GOOD LUCK !!!
I would prefer this
1. Forked Lightning
2. Shackles
3. Forked Lightning
4. Shackles
5. Forked lightning
6. Mass Serpent Ward
7. Forked Lightning
8. Shackles
9. Shackles
10.Voodoo
11.Mass Serpent Ward
12.Voodoo
13.Voodoo
14.Voodoo
15.Stats
16.Mass Serpent Ward
17-25.Stats
In that way you may chase your enemy who is running away with low life
@maxximm40
Yea well thanks, feels good to know that somebody agrees with me. Right now I'm taking a leave off dota and tryin out some new games so i will be "afk" lol from DotA. and uh i assumed you read my guide so ty lol!
and i think i saw vandros posting here like 2 months ago, *whispers* i think he abandoned this guide.
nice,,
i reakon u should get dagon cose at the end of the game the forked lightinin doesnt really work on other heros.
I love Rhasta aswell! You say to put the serpents next to the hero when infact if you cast it in the middle of the enemy hero the seropents will surround him and he cant move!
To: Transfat.
I totally disagree with what you're saying which is kellen is worse den eul scepter. Of course any caveman can eul scepter on a hero. But if you're a pro, you'll take kellen's dagger becos.....you can trap your opponent with wards using your blink dagger. You don't believe me come and play with me and I show you. Dagger is also good for escaping as rhasta doesn't have high hp at early game. If you want to be standardize as a caveman, you can go on using eul scepter. If you don't know how to use or see how to use the it, den don't give bad comments on the dagger.
WHEN I PLAY RHASTS I GET AGHANIM SECPTER AND REFRESHER THEN ITS GG 24 WARDS U CAN OWN THE WHOLE TEAM
why muz buy travel why dun buy some escape item like dagger of escape
hai some more buy scerpter to buy bluit more life why dun buy vanguard or two bracer??
and i think eu should buy hex bettter than scepter??
rasta is a support hero nt a killin hero unless he is wants to doa 1 man show 1 v 4
veri easy rasta need alot of keyboard skill it's is difficult to use tat eu can't be tat pro . eu can't use 8 key in a short time so eu gt to train
I EXTREMELY prefer Voodoo+Shackles in early game. Wards+Shacks+Voodoo gives more time for your wards to beat down a hero rather than FL
Lightning > Voodoo
Ward, Shackle, lightning.
BAM!!
Just a thought since its prolly easier not to rely completely on wards.
great build. you'd be as formidable as any hero late LATE game (if the game lasts that long) with guinsoo, aghanims and refresher. double serpent wards and disable like there's no tomorrow.
shackles and forked lightning should be maxed out first. by maxing out voodoo first, you're basically relying on your ulti + disables to score kills when 300 damage from forked lightning is a LOT early early game. shackles will more than suffice to hold the hapless hero near your wards. if he survives that, fork him.
sorry, but i'd say that this is very poor guide.. first of all, you should at least buy null talismans or void stone to improve your creep pushing together with the FL skill then you should go for eul's to easily execute a perfect ward shuckles attack. other wise you'll be eating a whole lot of his attacks.
second you should buy the guinso only after you've used up all the twisters and aghanim's..
third, you should only use your wards to attack a tower only if you have creeps otherwise it will be useless because of their very low hp. you should also expect attacks from behind so wards for towers is almost for last results.
lastly, if your pushing and killing heros with the ward shuckles, the game wuldn't last till your refresher.
i'd say its 1/10.. better luck next time.
Bad idea for shackles and hex early game. Advice from me tho u can not take it. IM always look at all directions in all games and i undestsand those that pump hex and shackles. HOWEVER, shackles, hex and wards wud cost 585 mana at max hex and shackles and lvl 1 wards. Bad idea. 585 almost ur whole mana pool. U can only execute this combo only about ONCE. Forked lightning deals 300 damage. Wait b4 u tink im another noob eho insists on fork. Tink. If there were 2 heroes on the lane. How u gonna kill?
Lets say a stunner?
u cannot even harass. U no fork lightning. U attack him and u will tank creeep. No kick?
U have puny life. One stun u deep shit. Even b4 u hex u wud be in front of lord yama. no chance. All this is only for solo kills and may i ask, how easy is it to find some1 wandering around? i doubt so. u mite kill but with fork, ur kills wud be undoubetly higher. For example, in a clash, wud hex or fork be more useful? In alc lash, its chaos. Ppl see who just attack. Few wud appreciate wat rhasta does. If in a very no imba overlevel or any gay advantage clash, u hex, wud ppl fite him or aim him at all costs? Tell me this, imagine a scenario where u are the main and everyone acts accordingly to ur actions. I doubt so. PPl seldom realise if anyone even got hexed. ANd the hexed wud just crawl away. Cos forked wud be better. U can harass and in a clash reduce their hp tho late game no kik duh. Thus i suggest fork. It wud be useful throughout the whole of early and mid game. U mite not like it, and im not forcing u but just giving some insights. If i continue, zzz, about the item build, i tinkall dowan read le... too long. I will just stop here. So suggested build for verstaile rhasta, BOT, lothar, blink, guinsoo, ahgahnim.
too expensive
good build but it is kind of expensive but it is a strong build i'll try it hopefully i can deny with his low atk speed xD
Yeah. This is my combo- first do shackles after shackles put the serpent around him.
after that hex him and hit him with the lightning after that hit him with the normal attack then DEAD!
WTF everybodies item build is the same even i didnt see all the guides
i use this item bulid
every rhasta build is a copycat!!!
jabali
hmm... this is good hero.. before i tell u about my strategy.. i want to say srry coz my english not so good..my strategy is u can kill when lvl 1 or 2.. when starting game.. buy ur item and go to mid or btm if u sentinel and btm or top if u scourge.. lvl 1 take shackles skill and lvl 2 forked..juz attack ur enemy and make ur enemy want to chase u.. when anemy chase.. go fast to ur tower and fsatly do shackles to ur enemy.. when hp low.. fast forked to him.. FIRST BLOOD!!!!


