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Thunderfall`s Guide to Lion, the Demon Witch

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Most people think of Lion as a noob and often killstealing hero, because they don’t know what Lion is really capable of doing. True, he’s got Finger, which is great for killstealing, but his other skills makes him what he is: a Team player, which is also able to kill heroes at the same time. He is a gem in team games late game, while he is a very strong hero killer early to mid game. Your teammates will often tell you to hex or stun, and that’s what makes Lion so deadly in 5v5 large-scale battles. More on this in the guide. Lion is my first favorite hero, and up to now I use him every now and then. I wish that this guide will help many DotA players out there, and they can see the power that is Lion. So therefore, I bring you, a guide to Lion, the Demon Witch. Lion has great stat growth. His int gain is super, and that’s just we need to pull off those high mana cost combos late game. His Str and Agi gain are below average, but with the proper items, we can compensate for that.

Lion - Demon Witch

Range: | Move Speed: 290
Primary: INT
Str: 16 + 1.7 | Agi: 15 + 1.5 | Int: 22 + 3
Damage: 42 - 48 | HP: 454 | Mana: 286
HP Regen: 0.73 | Mana Regen: 0.89
Attack Speed: 0.68 | Armor: 1
Impale (Lion)
Impale (Lion) (E)
The Demon Witch releases his demonic magics into the ground in order to thrust solidified rock spikes along a straight path. This sends all his enemies into the air, only to take damage on their painful impact with the ground.
Level 1 - 60 damage, lasts 0.5 second.
Level 2 - 130 damage, lasts 1 second.
Level 3 - 200 damage, lasts 1.5 seconds.
Level 4 - 260 damage, lasts 2 seconds.
Damage type: magical
Hit units will fly for 0.52 seconds before the real stun is applied.
Distance traveled is 700.
Casting range: 500
Area of Effect: 150
Mana Cost: 100/120/145/170
Cooldown: 12
Comment: This is what makes Lion a great disabler. 4 seconds of pain, you and your teammates can do a lot of things in 4 seconds. But look at that mana cost! It is very high even for Lion early game, so don’t use it at levels 1 and 2 unless you absolutely have to. The only problem I have with hex is that it is so hard to click on a critter… but oh well a great skill nonetheless.

Voodoo (D)
Transforms an enemy unit into a random critter, disabling special abilities.
Level 1 - Lasts 1.25 seconds.
Level 2 - Lasts 2 seconds.
Level 3 - Lasts 2.75 seconds.
Level 4 - Lasts 3.5 seconds.
If the target is an illusion, it will be instantly destroyed.
The hexed target will have a base movespeed of 100.
Hex disables damage block and evasion.
Casting range: 500
Mana Cost: 110/140/170/200
Cooldown: 13
Comment: As unoriginal this spell is, you will be using this a lot in the game. This is your stun, and it can affect multiple enemies if aimed right. Late game you will have enough mana to spam this on creeps. This can be useful in team battles as well. With two disables at your disposal, expect your teammates to depend on you a lot in team battles. One more thing, I recommend clicking on the hero instead of the ground while aiming this, it gives you more accuracy. Thing is, if you aim it on the hero and he has Linkens, Linkens will block it. But if you aim it on the ground, Linkens will not block it. But to lag and other matters, refrain yourself from aiming at the ground unless that hero has Linkens.
Mana Drain
Mana Drain (R)
Absorbs the magical energies of a target enemy unit by taking mana from it every second. Lasts 4 seconds.
Level 1 - 20 mana drained per second.
Level 2 - 40 mana drained per second.
Level 3 - 60 mana drained per second.
Level 4 - 100 mana drained per second.
Illusions which are being Mana Drained will be destroyed after 1 second.
Can continue to drain as long as the target is within 800 range from Lion.
Casting range: 600/650/700/750
Mana Cost: 10
Cooldown: 25/20/15/10 seconds
Comment: No, no, no. Don’t ever get this skill. It steals very little mana, and what bugs me the most is that it is a channeling spell. It is not worth learning, it does not harass as effectively as NA’s mana burn. If you use it on the ranged creep, the melee creeps will leave you vulnerable. Bottom line, don’t ever get this skill, mana regen items are better. Besides, it will just delay hex and stats, which are far more useful than Mana Drain.
Finger of Death
Finger of Death (F)
Instantly rips at a target, attempting to turn it inside-out. Deals massive damage.
Level 1 - Deals 500 (600*) damage.
Level 2 - Deals 650 (800*) damage.
Level 3 - Deals 850 (1025*) damage.
Damage type: magical
Casting range: 700
Can be improved by Aghanim's Scepter (* shows the improved values).
Mana Cost: 200/420/650(625)
Cooldown: 150/90/55(50)
Comment: This skill is often used as a finisher. I’ve already put the actual damage to the hero above. The damage will even be lower if they have Aegis and especially on Anti-Mage. Be sure to estimate the hp of the hero before using this skill. Late game it will not be that effective anymore so start hunting at level 6 because this skill is best used at early to mid game. One more thing, don’t ever used this to kill steal unless your teammates says so. It pisses them off, you know.
Skill Build

Skill Build:

1. Impale2
2. Voodoo
3. Impale2
4. Voodoo
5. Impale2
6. Finger of Death
7. Impale2
8. Voodoo
9. Voodoo
10. Stats
11. Finger of Death
12. Stats
13. Stats
14. Stats
15. Stats
16. Finger of Death
17. Stats
18. Stats
19. Stats
20. Stats
21. Stats
22. Mana Drain
23. Mana Drain
24. Mana Drain
25. Mana Drain
Item Build

Item Build:

1.View Details for Ring of Basilius
Ring of Basilius
6 Damage
1 armor
Passive: Mana Aura
0.65 Mana Regeneration. 900 AoE
Passive: Armor Aura
2 armor. 900 AoE. Doesn't stack with armor auras from Assault Cuirass, Ring of Basilius, or Vladmir's Offering.
Note: Clicking the item will toggle whether Armor Aura affects heroes and units, or just heroes. Can be disassembled.
Ring of Protection + Sobi Mask
2.View Details for Dagon
13/15/17/19/21 Intelligence
3 All Attributes
9 Damage

Active: Energy Burst
- Deals 400/500/600/700/800 damage to a target unit
- Manacost: 180/160/140/120/100
- Cooldown: 35/30/25/20/15 seconds
- Cast range: 600/650/700/750/800

Note: Buy recipe to upgrade Dagon (up to 5 levels)

Null Talisman + Staff of Wizardry + Dagon Recipe Scroll
3.View Details for Energy Booster
Energy Booster
250 Mana
4.View Details for Mystic Staff
Mystic Staff
25 Intelligence
to complete aganim's increase the damage of ulitimate
5.View Details for Perseverance
10 Damage
5 HP Regeneration
125% Mana Regeneration
Note : Can be disassembled.
Ring of Health + Void Stone
adds +7 damage and 100% mana regen and some hp regen
6.View Details for Oblivion Staff
Oblivion Staff
6 Intelligence
10 Attack Speed
15 Damage
75% Mana Regeneration
Quarter Staff + Robe of the Magi + Sobi Mask
to complete refresher orb...recooldown the ultimate to use it again
7.View Details for Boots of Travel
Boots of Travel
100 Movement Speed

Active: Teleport
- Teleports you to an allied non-hero unit or building
- Casting time: 3 seconds
- Manacost: 75 mana
- Cooldown: 60 seconds
- Shares cooldown with Scroll of Town Portal

Note: Movement speed bonus does not stack with Boots of Travel, Phase Boots, Power Treads, Tranquil Boots or Boots of Speed.
Double clicking teleports you to your fountain.
Boots of Speed + Boots of Travel Recipe Scroll
8. Guinsoo`s Scythe of Vyse
if the game goes on biuld this...
Skill Build

Early Game:

First and foremost, this is a pubbie build. This is meant to be used in pubs, where there are no means of teamwork. This build is for you to kill people early game with Dagon, and to support your allies late game. But you can still take out Agi and Int heroes late game with this build, even hurt Str heroes, hence the Refresher Orb.

Aghanims is there not for the added bonus in Finger of Death, but because it gives Lion much needed HP early to mid game. Ring of Basilius for early game mana regen, and Dagon for surefire early game kills. I agree that this is not the best build for Lion, but if you want to KILL, then this is the build for you.

Remember in this build, hero killing is your TOP priority. I will provide the combos you need to do with in this build in the strategy section.

Buy the necessary starting items and head out to your lane. Solo or with a partner is fine, because Lion really shines with a teammate. I prefer not going mid, as the mid leaves you vulnerable to be ganked at two sides. Besides, if you are going mid you will probably face a nuker like Lich or Zeus, and Lion isn’t just strong enough early game to face this bitches. Once you get to your lane do the usual last hit creeping. Since you are a ranged hero, you can use this to your advantage by harassing melee heroes that are in your lane. Just make sure you also kill a lot of creeps during your harassing. If you face a nuker, play it safe and only attack the creeps if it’s the last hit.

Do not yet cast Impale level 1; you can start using it at level 3. If you are with an ally, then tell him to attack the impaled hero. This works even better if you are paired with ranged heroes, preferably heroes like Clinkz. This is great for early game harassing, and will probably piss your opponents. Now just farm and harass your way until level 6, where you should attempt for first blood if it hasn’t been done yet. If you think that your impale+finger combo will kill your opponent instantly, then go for the kill. If you are not confident, then try softening first your opponent with an Impale and a few hits.

This is what you should do early game: Kill. When you get your Dagon (if you are playing the Power Nuker Lion, killing will be much easier. Note the damage you can dish out when you already have Dagon. So your early game combo would be:... Voodoo + hit, hit (about 140 or so damage) + Impale (195 damage) + hit, hit (about 140 or so damage) + Dagon (400 damage) + Finger (375 damage) = 1250 damage! This combo costs 570 mana. I would normally get my Dagon at about level 10 or so… the attack damage I took from the damage that Lion has at Level 10 with a Dagon and Ring of Basilius in his inventory. 1250 damage at level 10 or so? That is very formidable, and most heroes you can take down with it.

Remember not to cast Voodoo at levels 1 and 2, its not worth the mana. Every time you have enough mana, you should be scouting the map for easy kills. Remember that Lion is a very strong hero killer early game,.

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183 By micha67 2012-01-09

use lot of mana and gold. mmmmm.

182 By chaosmann23 2012-01-03

this guide bases a lot on shouldnt focus that much. guisoos aghamins and stats are sufficient.if you overspam spells you can use mana drain to restore your mp. your mp wont end fast with constant spell-spamming. bot is not a good choice for me although you can teleport. you need power threads to gain str and as to hit the enemy.

181 By chaosmann23 2012-01-03

this guide bases a lot on shouldnt focus that much. guisoos aghamins and stats are sufficient.if you overspam spells you can use mana drain to restore your mp. your mp wont end fast with constant spell-spamming. bot is not a good choice for me although you can teleport. you need power threads to gain str and as to hit the enemy.

180 By dreamerlv21 2010-12-22

try my build..

1. power treads or phase boots
2. dagon
3. helm of dominator
4. orchid M.
4. shivas G.
5. refreshers O.
6. stygian D. or bloodstone

179 By d3viLMaYcRy 2010-12-21

try my built
1.PowerTread{str}increase life
2.ForceStaff(can save allies and push enemy face up to us..)
3.Guinsoo( easy gank and run and for mana regen don thiink mana drain is enough..)
4.Dagger( can gank people easily)
5.EuL( can gank easily )
6.EthernalBlade(can gank people and can escape from killer type like PA and Troll)
try thiis..

178 By tidalchaos14 2010-07-23

don't use QB in this hero try it to magina is so easy to last hit like 1 2 3. . .then your gold. . .

177 By arlo_shadowfiend 2010-07-23

@anjpogi i would go for quelling blade some branches 2 clarity and tango. later buy some circlet
then I go for null talisman and baracers

176 By Reigarde 2010-07-22

@anjpogi with 800+ i usually go 1 null talisman, 1 tango, 1 salve, 2 clarity + 2 branches .

dont forget your dagger ! its the epic win item for lion !

175 By Rathalos15 2010-07-22

my build:
1st. pt(INT)
2nd. ring of health
3rd. aghanim/dagoon
4th. bloodstone
5th. orchid
6th. BKB

yup that's all!!!
Good luck killing...

174 By Arch_Vince 2010-05-22

I go for Urn (provides HP, regen, and has Heal).. After that, Dagger (for initiating/ganking).. BoT, Aghanims, Bloodstone.. And lastly Ethereal Blade (as a luxury)

173 By kiminmaster 2010-05-22

Buy simple items like ironw0od branches,gauntlets,mantle or circlet and some regens item like tango,salves or clarity..

172 By anjpogi 2010-05-22

hey what do i buy for the items if,for example im in a 5v5 game and dont have the gold for the items?what should i buy?

171 By ragnadiktus 2010-01-28

Here's my build. 8))


>>Hahahaha...I hav vanguard cuz...well...I like vanguard. XD

170 By God of Lion 2009-12-30

How about my item
"The Real Support and Powerful Lion"
1.Power Thread (int)
2.Dagger of Escape
3.Wand of Scepter

I just take mana drain early until 2 level and next focus on voodoo
okay my lion is weak early but he is untouchable

169 By ryanpx2014 2009-12-22

this build is okay, i can pwn this guy anyday

168 By Jumba 2009-12-05

i think that mana drain is a great spell, you can harass a mana dependant hero by implae, then mana drain. it does alot of help.

167 By Lion man 2009-11-22

Oh, and I forgot shivas(late game)

166 By Lion man 2009-11-22

You DONT need guinsoo and buy boots early... you dont need BoT

165 By BriNG_iT_oN!! 2009-10-21

i think "diepro2615" has a good build but instead of "Guinsoo" ...i'll go for "Bloodstone"...try it

164 By dapp021 2009-10-07

you cant blame the author... this build is old school..:D