Unlimited Assassinate

Good one.

It isn't a bad thing you didn't buy Cranium, since Headshot overrides it, making 1 sec stun 0.1 sec stun.

i think you better get take aim and headshot first before,

and i think it's better to purschase skadi and butterfly first,you can be unstopable if you have that item

I like this guide.
Sniper is one of my two favourite characters, and I think this build is quite good.

But I like to add take aim and headshot first, and then add scatter shot for middle or late game, because there would be more creeps during those times. Haha.

Have you tried using Maelstrom? It's quite an instresting item in the early game if you get it first. But you can replace it with some other item in late game. Haha.

Hi Hale,

hehe thanks for the comment. but in the 5on5 game, i still prefer to max out the Take aim and the Scatter shot, because how can you farm faster? and Skadi and Butterfly are expensive items if you purchase it in the Mid Game. its still advisable to have the Linken Sphere first, before you make Skadi and Butterfly.

Skadi, B-fly and Mkb equipped on kardel.. Also put buriza can kill almost any hero! Headshot + Mkb = 90 + 50 damage = 0uch!

honestly i would buy desolator SnY then butterfly eye of skudi

UNLIMITED ASSASINATE? IS THERE SUCH THING?????????????

nice, same thoughts here... anyway, aboardboy, desolator and SnY? are u insane? what a waste... scatter's better than headshot in the bginning, crucial damage and great help to dodge d denying of ur enemy creeps... dont forget, it also damages the hero and its a big help for an easy push..
yet, theres no such unlimited assasinate, but it cooldowns fast, its great to keep spamming it to enemy heroes...

Yeah you're right with that, there's no such Unlimited Assassinate, but its just like that, with the fast cooldown and very fast mana regen, its the same as Unlimited.

hello there...one question, to anyone here...especially 'da'..i mean nastykosh..

is it possible for kardel to have a semi-permabash as what the 'others' say that faceless void has?

if so, what equipz would grant this...

i'm just kinda particular with the Headshot ability of kardel...

just a noobz here...

thanks...

your build sucks

Hey, no escape mechanism??? linken is not a good one u know. i would rather take lothar or eul->guinsoo first

how about buriza?????????

@Faticant
Do you think Linken Sphere is useless? Come to think of it.. if youu dont have fast mana and hp regen, then how can you farm faster? escaping mekanism? its still up to you.. since you have EoS, Linken Sphere and Aegis.. it will not be a problem escaping since you have high hp and high armor.. :lols:

@Flora
You think this strat sucks? then

@Faticant
Do you think Linken Sphere is useless? Come to think of it.. if youu dont have fast mana and hp regen, then how can you farm faster? escaping mekanism? its still up to you.. since you have EoS, Linken Sphere and Aegis.. it will not be a problem escaping since you have high hp and high armor.. :lols:

@Flora
You think this strat sucks? then stop reading any threads here...

@all reading this strat
Its ok to have a comment.. but make sure your comment is not a trash just like FLORA.

Max out Headshot and Take Aim First? I dont think its a good idea, coz, farming comes first to acquire the items you want.. hahaha

i did not type that it was my brother

ok im sorry, shouldnt have made that comment.

but i did expect you to be a lot smarter than that

YOU CAN'T EXPERIENCE THAT
UNLIMITED ASSASINATE
buy some clarities on your way

@Rupture
Yeah theres no such thing as unlimited assassinate.. but you can do Ultimate Skill Spam, because of your large mana pool. and the fast cooldown of your skill..

i agree with flora...
u suck big time!

oh.. did i mention it was my sister hu typed it

ok im sorry, shouldnt have made that comment. but i did expect you to be a lot smarter than that

uhh.. this build is not the same as other regular kardel builds. it sucks

hmmmmm... not that gud strategy i agree w/ marco realuyo and flora this strategy SUX ... i expect u to be a lot more smarter than this...

i not very support sniper to yasha&sange because it quite useless... 4 sniper

to find me

MARCO REALUYO
ATENEO HIGH SCHOOL
CLASS OF 3J
CLASS NUMBER 34
IM BALD

good strat, but I like to get maybe one null and a ring of basilius first because they help you farm. Then boots and maybe treads, then straight to butterfly or Skadi. I don't like to use S/Y for him. My one suggestion for sniper: try not to go for linkens AND skadi, because they both supply the stat bonuses he needs to survive. I like to skadi then bfly because it gives him frost and aspd which he needs, not more stats. Come on now, 15 + 25 to all attributes? Thats a lot of HP and mana for a sniper with 750 range--try opting for damage and aspd. A good strat tho, lots of original ideas. I dunno what those asses are talking about when they say this strat sucks. Also, I think you are underestimating the power of Headshot! Thats an ownage skill! The last thing an enemy needs is to stop moving and take 50 extra damage in a chase!

skadi and sange yasha dont stack

sange and yasha are junk!! use Skadi and lots of hyperstones or butterfly's

u suck

2 MKB and a Skadi makes him almost untouchable.

And by the way. Skadi stacks w/ S&Y beacause skadi is not an orb effect when used w/ ranged heroes.

nice guide, but i think you will waste your money on the null talisman and ring of basilius. replace it with 2 cranium basher. also take t.a. and h.s first... but overall it is a good strategy. GREAT

I think you don't need scatter at start. You only need two skill at start head shoot and take aim and xtra stats. To make kardel killer type. adding sange and yasha is good but I think that it would be better if using sange and yasha and burriza

shouldnt Kardel have a lothar's edge?

YOU SUCKS!

not bad but the eye of skadi and sange and yasha both have orb effect so they dont stack..

you shouldnt have scatter shot in the beggining because it is weak at lvl 1. you should always get lvl 4 take aim asap

if ur gonna get aegis then u might as well get divine rapier

how exactly does this give u unlimited assassinate...

This is a great item build. The only thing I'd recommend is maybe Lothars, as the Dwarf is really sensitive to...well, everything.

Oh, and MKB instead of SnY...

Arcane Ring is better in the world today. You should have something like a bit less than 100 intellect to get the same regen from the void stone. Arcane Ring also gives a better manapool
I hope they remove the item, as it is way too imba for non-intelliegence type heroes

another alternatif 4 him would be... buriza, hyperstone, SnY, Power treads, butterfly, MKB...

your build is good i like it.
Look at the introduction and look Assassinate and you will see that at 3 lv this skill dont have 5 seconds cooldown

ummm s&y does not STACK with eye of skadi

so my guide is: skadi, power treads, hyperstone, buriza, and maybe some bashers(optional)

i dont agree with ur skill build, you should always get take aim and headshot...scatter shot for mid game u dont need it for early game...plus take aim increases ur range like crazy which plays to your advantage, when you are attacking a melee hero you dont take extra damge from creeps

skadi and hypestone can kill like hell

you know. this may seem weird 2 u guys but i think i'd put on a Buriza-do-kyanon(not sure bout d spellin) a butterfly, skadi, hyperstone and power treads(since it stacks w/ hyper stone)...


feel free to correct me

yeah.... its ok..

The Linken Sphere seems useless. The Battle Fury gives more hp and mana regen as well as powerful damage. Linken Sphere costs 5700 and Battle Fury costs 4785 gold.

This is quite an expensive item guide... are u sure u have beaten some REAL players with this? Good try anyway

i buy first perse the deso then linken then sange and yasha and butterfly.

good guide yet expensive one.. u should have a good farming skills for this one.. good guide tho'

Good but i take eye of skadi and heart for much hp.

I like this strategy

can kill easyily with skadi and 2 hypestone

it's had to be like that...

must farm so many creep...n cardel alwasy target no 1 if battle

Overall good thorough guide. But most poeple normally get first blood at about lvl 3.

Btw, get buriza for A LOT of added damged later

whats the aegis of immortal for??

whats the aegis of immortal for??

you can't sell AoI for MKB...since AoI cannot be dropped.

i suggest getting a dagger or LE for escaping and trailing dying heroes.

buriza is a must if you want him to deal massive damage along with EoS,Butterfly, and MKB...but this set of items is too expensive...not unless the game went to almost 2 hours.

If you have AoI, better get a divine as well...

just my 2 cents

a very good one!

i think you should buy buriza though...

this build sucks

Simply nice...
I just wantto know if eye of skadi and SNY Will stack???

Hey, scatter shot can be made to a skill that made people sick too..
When a tower only have a tiny hp, scatter shot the tower...
BOOOOM!!!
Minimum of 400 money is in your pocket... Hahaha :lol

what should i build first

unlike MKB, headshot doesnt remove any previous bashes.
SnY is not that good for this hero, also the Maim may seem great for him... it actually aint.
lol @ Deathzwei. u cant cleave a ranged attack with Battlefury :P
Kardels damage is low, so gettin a buriza is a waste of money, howeva a crystalis is okay cos its cheaper.
and u need a better escape mechanism. linkens charge can easily be used with a weak chain lightnin.
update this cos aegis doesnt hav any use for kardel anymore.
u need sentry/orbserver wards to spam ulti on enemy cos even if u hav 800'ish attack range (2500 for ulti), u can only see 700'ish range.

All this 'escape mechanism' talk, and Lothars Edge gets mentioned twice total. Sigh. Likewise lol @ fury on range... Oh the guide. I don't play sniper that much but I swear this item build doesn't look very dangerous. Hmmm.

Great guide.

simply buy hyperstone, power treads n butterfly in the late game and you'll be a real hero killer

simply buy hyperstone, power treads n butterfly in the late game and you'll be a real hero killer

S&Y does stack with EoS because sniper is not a melee hero!!! I suggest to take MKB instead of Aegis. Scatter shot is very good for farming so it's very important for the expensive item that u're dreaming to have.

OMG. No escape mecanism? Not BoT or Lothars? A no no. Kardel truly needs either Lothars or Bot, having both is the best strategie for me. No escape mecanism = you`ll get ganked and killed 100 times (against good players).

Hmmm, to wad i noe...
sniper with scatter+take aim=pusher
sniper with head shot+take aim=harasser
sniper with take aim+head shot=hit tower
sniper with lv1 scatter=tower ks-er
sniper with take aim+stats=counter atker
sniper with head shot+stats=hero killer

Well, this is wad i've seen from sniper players. Wahahah And this strat is like in between, where u farm with scatter and kill with skills, not item. There's simply no dmg item...lolx

Dangit! Eye of Skadi DOES stack with SnY, because EoS ranged is not an orb effect. EoS melee IS. Therefore, Frost Attack stacks with Maim, giving this guide validity. x] Good strat, by the way.

nice..wahahah..
just like my kradel's build...

Still I think it's almost a must for Kardel to have Bashers

Do u think u can gain 26765 gold in a one game oh u must be a very good player

Desolator can be also a good item

expensive strat

it is voila not viola you idiot.

this is a stupid set..

what if ur enemy is using that poison golem and he already have a refresher orb??

dropping you 2 poison golems will be lethal, including their chaos damages and stunning abilities, and he'd be buying maelstrom and dagon4... u'd be a feeder with that srat and set

ive tried this set and it really sucks

is there a item that helps u stun with the headshot skill? coz if so.. which is most advisible?

retarded shit!!! ur dota kanowledge sucks

Hey i have a theory...

Don't you think we can use the SnY Satanic and Eye of Skadi for ranged heros like Kardel?

I think because:

1. SnY stacks with lifesteal such as satanic (lifesteal as main orb, then SnY only overrides lifesteal when enemy is maimed

2. Eye of Skadi ranged is not considered an orb effect, so it stacks with ANY kind of orb effect (except stygian desolator) including lifesteal or SnY (try SnY and Skadi or lifesteal Skadi and check the effect.)

3. So, if Skadi stacks with SnY orb effect and lifesteal orb effect, and SnY-lifesteal stack, then...

4. All of these orb effects stack, am i right?

5. Eye of Skadi+Satanic+SnY=monster

cool strategy man!
thanks!

THis is damn true that when you are playing with that sniper, you con kill at an awesome distance.

where do you know ranged eye of skadi is NOT an orb effect???? im sure IT IS!!!! WHY don't you get basher? and where is BURIZA?? linken is to expensive, buy blink dagger or lothar will be better i think. i am not so smart in using kardel but i know it should have basher!

no point in gettin basher, headshot overrides that bash anyway, mkb is better plus it would hav a greater probability of stunnin.

linkens does make sense, kardel does get gangraped a lot.

@Baleonard
I don't think Satanic gives lifesteal to range, but I'm not sure. Anyway, Kardel doesn't need the strength from Messerchmidt's, it'd be better to spend that money on something else, my preference is a Maelstrom.

OMG why does nobody put in the assualt curiuss massive armour boost so that it's harder to die and a faster attack speed meaning ownage.

1. power treads
2. Perseverence
3. Butterfly
4. lincons (from perseverence)
5. eye of skadi (OR) stygian deselator deppending on game situation gd TP.
6. mailstrom
7. and the god damg assault curiuss

ANYBODY that is n00b enough to say that SKADI and SnY don't stack desserves do die because the range effect on skadi doesn't count as orb effect but i still wouldn't use SnY.

sorry for double post, but forget lincons use BURIZA and i would personally use stygian desselator instead of eye of Skadi. AND NO CRANIUM BASHER because the stun i think is over riden by the skill head shot... gd luck and have fun on DotA (MAIN THING)...

Fuck You All :D

hmm i dont use sniper a whole lot it dont seem that strong ... y RoB i dont get that..

Wow.... Amazing....

I will try that advices...

thank you

A bit noobish.first comes headshot and take aim cause u dont have mana and taking null talismans is total waste. i d rather take 3 bracers or wraith bands.DO NOT TAKE S&Y. Desolator or better satanic for ownage.
My ultymate build is:
1.treads
2.satanic
3.basher
4.basher
5.butterfly
6.buriza or mkb or assault or divine or anything u want ur choice.

noob playing...kardel must rely on his attack speed. i recommend butterfly,power threads,monkey king bar,HoT,beleive me,he OWNS..stats first then scatter shot..kardel is the best

aku sula sniper

Hey, Its not fair to say that a strategy sucks, each to his/her own, in the end, its whatever works. However, this is only 1 strat, it is always best to have a few strats tucked under your belt. Just pay attention to what heroes your opponents and enemies are choosing then pick an appropriate one.
Its always good to keep an open mind and read up on a few strats. One of them might just beat that anoying strat which your friends keep pulling on you when your playing that 3v3, same sides all the time.

nice although tha unlimited asasinate is good, some how, it sucks in alte game where tough tankers are hard to kill

HOLY SHIIIIT!!!!!!This build is fucking insane!!!because of the build i already get more 20 kills per game!!!!

hey all i know that im almost completely not known but i gotta say this is not a bad guide but i have to tell u to update a bit if u wanna be a good farmer then ya but i say that u need to take the aim and head shots first and then scatter shot if u dont want to then thats ok

pretty good

I believe it is better to maximize the use of the scatter shot co'z it gives u plenty of golds... Hahaha!! I preferred 1st and 2nd Skill!!!

noob.
scatter is useless

its better to make your damage higher so the enemy will always go back to the fountain, because kardel have longer range

its better to make your damage higher so the enemy will always go back to the fountain, because kardel have longer range

it's an superb guide especially for me...because im just starting to play dota...thanks a lot! lol!

panget strategy moh boo!!

i say u just need treads lothers mkb hyper mkb

scatter is only good to get the tower and to farm

its a great strategyi have tested it already...can u post a strategy for slardar the silthereen guardian

i"l take care

one of my favourite hero

my item build is simply...


1Threads
2Mask Of Madness/Satanic
3Butterfly
5MKB
5&6 depending on your oponent/s may be defiance etc...

"Then, have the Animal Courier do the job for you on making Perseverance, and Power Threads. Keep on doing the technique for farming gold."

The animal couriers cant refill your bottle, only flying couriers can :0

OMFG

great

Best range hero ever!

Good,good, but I think that headshoot is maxed out first, cuz it's great, and you should add hyperstone cuz with it, he is beyond godlike

my build:(don't use kardel often )
power treads
butterfly
EoS
flask of sapphire water or tango
buriza

short. to short.

Noobssssssssssss.!!!>!!

stigyan and skady is the bes item for dwarf

Here's what I think, your item build has excellent synergy with your skill build. Nulls with scatter shot. That makes sense. Here's a problem. Sniper with headshot has terribly low damage. No escape skill whatsoever. I highly doubt you're gonna use scatter shot on heroes. And spamming assassinate doesn't work on 1 on 1s thanks to it's casting time. Another problem. Headshot cancels out the effect of bashers

I'd arm myself a Desolator, Power Treads, Butterfly and finally the Linkens. But that's just me.

i dun like scatter shot to be pumped at first i sure prefer headshot and take aim

i find out that the item build for this strategy is not good, except for the threads and butterfly,, also, the skill build is not good.
for the item, try to build power threads, vanguard, after that, go for the monkey king bar, followed by the S&Y next is butterfly, the last is up to you but for me, i will build tarrasque
for the skill build, upgrade take aim and headshot first and assassinate,after that, upgrade the stats before scatter shot,

S&y HYPERSTONE NEVER GET EOS IT IS USELESS AS U WANT TO EMPAHIZE KARDEL'S STUN ABIL, GET BASH

hi,
do you guys know tat tis character is once not a sentinel..centuries ago,he was under the category of SioKunTong..
It is a famous gang and its standing strong till now..dun believe me?
ask your history teacher..
aw ar aw !!! 369 !!!
Singapore,bo bei zhao!!!

Wow man stop with this crazy spam...

And your build is kinda like mine except for Linkens...i'll try it out anytime

lucifydivine has just experienced WRATH due to posting approximately 50 posts of that bullshit above. Deleting them all was not fun.
Everyone else, have a nice day.

what a bad strat. learn to play dota.

Just a suggestion for agility heroes. Build Linken's sphere first if you want to score a quick kill on a nuker at level 7-9 but once you have farmed enough for a second Ultimate Orb. Deconstruct the Linken to get your first Orb back to build Skadi as it's more crucial for the later levels and you still end up with Perserverance. You can choose to rebuild Linken after EOS but I normally go for a Butteryfly at that point.

Pretty good build i would suggest and ive only seen it once before and that is to put anta stlye on sniper imagine 3 snipers burning mana and perma microstunning you = beyond godlike plus assassinate = best ks ability in Dota

noob question here guys...is't good to use skadi with any lifesteal items??..tnx

sometimes I uses bloodstone with butterfly and lifesteal items hp purpose since he has low hp...what can you say about this items guys..any comment or suggestions? i would apprecite it tnx

I rather buy 2 cranium basher,butterfly,
mask of madness,power thread and MKB

U should buy 2 Butterfly

thsi strategy sucjs u can{t support making losts of sactter shots at the begining u will not have enough mana for assassin... ust dumb guide

thsi strategy sucjs u can{t support making losts of sactter shots at the begining u will not have enough mana for assassin... ust dumb guide

bad you should get first take aim and headshot !!!!! BAD GUIDE 0/10

bad skill build
much better now is not taking scatter shot!

I dont understand why you chose to pick skadi when it is a) the 2nd most expensive item and b) completely useless since you already have an anti-run skill. Also, since sniper is not really a target in 5v5 battles, having linken's for anything other than the +mp regen is useless. An item like HelmOfDominator would be much more usefull. Additionally, scatter shot is a very crap skill because you can already get almost every creep kill with the low pre-attack animation and super fast missile speed.

i think my strategy is way way way better than yours! what the hell were you thinking to even come up with that kind of strategy. is that what you call it?? i call that trash!@

i got scatter first as to farm for gold and also who wants to spend 9 lvls wth no skills?