Almost-Battle-Type Luna
Created by yukino_silvermaine on 2006-08-24
Last modified: 2006-08-24
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Using Skadi on Luna? I dont think so.. because as far as i know, using any orb effect item on Luna will affect her attack, whether you see her attacking but look closely, she will not even damage the one you attacking and the glaive will not bounce..
1) using skadi on moonfang is a no-no.. 2) battle type for moonfang is only useful in mid-endgames.. 3) if you'll be going for a battle-type moonfang, you'll need lunar blessing right away.. it'll help you and your ranged allies.. 4) go for the mekansm right away.. it'll help for those battle-type moonfang.. 5) i suggest after getting the mekansm, go for the soul booster right away then you can start making her a battle-type..
Ummm.. Skadi works on Luna. I'll Show you a screen shot..
@ nidoking
1) Skadi works on Luna
2) It's not a pure battle type. See I maxed out Lucent beam? Really helps early game.
3)I chose stats over Lunar blessing because she needs the HP. Damage can be compensated by the items.
4) It helps but the sooner you complete EoS the better.
5) EoS is better. Adds 675 HP, 475 mana, 3 armor, 25% aspd, 25 damage, hp/mana regen.
Also, Lunar blessing helps far ranged allies like Drow ranger or Bone clinksz
I think they've updated her. And fix it. Nice screenies bro~
Hmmm.. The only update on the changelog about Luna is het range. I should test Luna again, this time using 6.36..
nice strat. but i think ur overlooking blink dagger, and refresher. and btw for the ppl that think skadi dont work for luna it does, altho only the first target to get hit will get slowed. the following bounces will have the same look, but will not chill
ahh and also, if you think thats not battle type, you can always attack at the same timne ur eclipse is going on, and blink near them if they get to far away. Eclipse IS NOT channeling.
ya eclipse is not channeling but lothars edge is also good for luna since it adds to her damage and makes her invinsible when having her eclipse i suggest to add lothars edge for her ideal items
u forgot about dagger bro!!! dont you think her ulti is the same as sk and cm??? blink + eclipse (sk = epi, cm = freezing field) is great you know...
impossible na pwede sya sa EoS
YOU FORGOT LOTHAR'S EDGE!!!!!!!!!!
add lothar and experience the
ULTIMATE BACKSTABBING EXPERIENCE
(UBE)
does lothars edge contain a backstab effect?
does it deal greater damage?
why scadi on luna...hehe
the most beautihul item for luna is lothar edge why?because if a hero only alone in aside get close to it then use your eclipse..it will surely kill youre enemy ..if it is still alive..use lucent beam ...that is the killer luna...and the lunar blessing use it in early game because its make your damage high..
@ dota_adik Look at the screen shots.
Does the frost of skadi still work?????
@ Larou = nope.
so what the use of skadi if it doesnt have frost?????????????????????
For stats
Try this one perhaps..
at early game use 3 bracers if you want to have long life since Luna has is a soft character...
or 3 Null talisman for your Lucent beams.
add boots of speed, basillus and empty bottle
Great strategy YUKINO!!! As for the items SKADI and LUNA works well together. You got to try it for yourselves guys. This strat really helped me alot in using Luna. I also agree with her in getting lunar blessing last because the percent of damage it increase is very low and won't really be helping you a lot. Maxing it out early is just a waste of skill..USELESS! Keep it up!
for starters, if luna is very item dependant, than how will she be able to farm well in the beginning?
I dont think radiance is not much useful for rangers.
yo, how many lucent beams does aghanim add?
the aghanim increase the max beam to a single enemy unit from 4 to 5, the total brams will be increased from 4/7/10 to 5/8/12. but I still think aghanim is too expensive
to charitharth55, I think Radiance is very useful for Luna, she can farm like god with it.Radiance also does not conflict with her glaive at all.I'll get an arane-ring at the beginning then use beam to accelerate farming, then directly go for Radiance. (because I'm noob
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Refresh orb could be a better item than aghanim for Luna. Using just your ulti, you can deal *3000*4*2*0,75=1800 to at least one or two enemy heros within several seconds, the mana cost is 275+120*2=515,you should be able get this refresh orb at the middle of the game, am I correct?
i have tried using the EoS on luna.. The attack will be bounced..I know. But, the skadi is not slowing the enemies.. So, what is the point of using skadi when it is not slowing enemy down>??
i have tried using the EoS on luna.. The attack will be bounced..I know. But, the skadi is not slowing the enemies.. So, what is the point of using skadi when it is not slowing enemy down>??
because it looks scary
skadi slows de 1st target, n it luks scary ven it hits de other 4 targets... i'm toking about de glaives... still, skadi is gud 4 her... i wuld lik a refresher oso... i agree wif avcat...
nice... why the hell is ur item build so big and usin orbs?
love ur strat yukino, and i've tried skadi on luna it works fsho. Instead of one bracer i would get 2 or an empty bottle. Also, get the point booster before the orbs because its hella hard to farm the orbs so early on. HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET SKADI AT LVL 12???
king of feeding in your post are you saying:
joking about the glaives or
talking about the glaives
toking but if thy do hit 4 targes w/ skadi it would look awesome
I Will try that, looks like good and god Like
Ranged EoS is not an orb effect guys, so that means it will work with luna pretty good guide over all 7/10
This is by far, the shittest build I have ever seen. What's the use of Skadi? Luna wont have frost attack. Need extra hp/mana, I rather have HoT and/or Aegis for better EHP (effective Hit Points).
My Luna Build:
Radiance, Butterfly, Kellens, Treads, Aegis,
@ Fecal Matter= Oh great. With your build, you don't have mana. Good job!
what is her moon glaive mean Each enemy struck beyond the first incurs a 40% damage loss, per unit.
It means that it deals less damage per bounce. Let's say you deal 100 damage to the first. The next one will deal 60. Then 36 then 21.6 and so on.
yep.......... where is kelen's. ???
i think kelens is better than lothar..
we can kill a hero more easily...
just take care the creeps first and make your opponnent shocked with that dagger ... and ECLIPSE...
this build is pretty bad.
i like the fresh idea of her using EoS.
however, too many item builds for my liking.
im sorry but blink dagger is essential for her to position her ulti.
radiance is definately great for her due to her being 'choosy' of items.
other than that, just stack agi items or maybe boost her hp a little.
skadi for luna,i dun think so
ice attacts will bounce and deals damage
but it doesn't deal frost attack
i've tried, and ive sin sme guide
thanks a lot guys.......
WUT IS THE ITEM KELLENS
uhmm i often use luna mun fang hehehe my name is kenneth uy :P this hero is my fav. first i usuall first buy perseverance for mana and start to buy lothars edge. bakstab the enemy.. ofcourse he can see you unless he have gem buse elcipse only when thee is no crips and bum it will take a lot of damage ecepecially when you max out the lucent beam so that the exlipse would be much strnger after that build aganyms so the eclipse would be much stronger...... skadi dont work on luna its ugly nad doesnt help at all. hehehe sori for that
after building aganyms i buy kelen guinsoo and heart
now thats a nice build ahihihi. dont bother making luna a battle type thats why she is a agi type with semi int type oooooo so strong ahihi
not a abd strat but if i may suggest this item build isntead. 1 wraith, boots of speed, 2 more wraiths, helm of dominator, butterfly, upgrade to satanic, upgrade to boots of travel, buriza in place of wraith, then possibly mkb or a 2nd butterfly if the game hasnt finished yet.ive done 1v5 with this build and i average around +3-20 in my kill/death ratio. last 3 games i was; 21-4, 13-2, and 11-11. i hope i helped, btw where do i go to create my own strategys
Deadly strat, i must say
OMG, this is a nice strategy... but but... they said i was a noobed and kicked me to get my items... aww :(
is satanic is nice for luna moon fang?
is eye of skadi an orb effect?
skadi only gives the frost appearence, no slowing of movement or attack speed. item bonus still good for her (health/mana) but not the first major item i would go for.
8/10
why not get lucent beam with stats? stats improve luna's base damage, so easier to farm, improve hp, easier to survive, improve mana, makes it easier to harass. also saves the bracer which early game costs a TON.
other than that good guide. 10/10
@lizhang
skadi is orb effect but luna isn't affected by skadi.
You CAN get orb effects w/Lunal: just don't get her bounce attack,
it's not that useful, and its way better to benefit from things like skadi etc.
Hey,yuki!Nice one!
ive used luna quite often in alot of games and i'll have to agree with yukino_silvermaine EYE OF SCADI do work for her. just a question though how DID YOU GET SKADI AT LVL 12? the downside for that is its expensive if that will be ur first major item. what i usually put in priority building would be perseverance and then soulbooster as it will increase luna's mana regen and mana life and not to mention it also helps with her HP.
coz i would have to say that LUNA is basically dependent on her skills...
now building A BATTLE TYPE LUNA:
of course you could probably build some natural damage items, you could choose e.g butterfly or MKB...
with regard to aghanim, i still think it's too expensive (2900 just for the scroll???). so id suggest for u guys to keep the soul booster for the moment. another downside for aghanim is that once u built it... you can no longer drop it!
so might as well invest on something less expensive but efficient items... refresher orb would be one good item to get though a bit expensive and complicated to build.
But i love the idea behind radiance... really good for farming...
and guys since the newer versions has new items in it-- why not try to use bloodstone -- or for longevity assault cultrass -- why not right???
one more thing, u can also give this a try in case ur enemies are the STR types u may get as an early item build blades of attack + chainmail = blademail
having this atleast u can return damage during the early goings, what do u guys think???
thanks!!!
Eye of Skadi for Luna..?!
i dont think so..
have anyone notice that the range of the moon glaive is higher than her original range?
Luna is my most favored killer and I say Skadi sucks on her. Go Basilius and wraithbands/bracers early game, treads and yasha midgame, butterfly and tarrasque endgame and if it's still not over farm for a divine rapier. I get a 90% success rate of beating people in pubbies and even inhouse games using this item build. As for skill build, go for stats and only learn glaives and blessing midgame. You don't need her weak bouncing glaives early game.
skadi does work but only the first unit will be affected wit slow, the next few still get hit but with normal damage.
superb!!!!tried it out worked really well..
good but not enough.. the EoS is very expensive.. a battle type Luna needs lothars, Scepter and of course, dagon..
EoS is NOT an orb effect for RANGED heroes (just to clarify). It IS for melee heroes though. Also, you CAN buy orb effects, such as helm of dominator and you get bouncing lifesteal and such, but it only effects the first attack.
Ohhhh...How cud u not let Lunar Blessing
do the killing.
My build for Luna:
Sceptre Dagon
Refresher PowerTreads
Butterfly Burizado
Rate this build some one.....
i use satanic instead of skadi. cheaper to build. Also in the mid game with HoD, you don't need a meka or any life regen item. Glavies work with satanic as well
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would recommend a life steal item to help in the farming for early game cause luna's def and hp not high...besides it is cheaper then mekansm..
hehe.. real smart looser.. nice going orb effect on luna...^^ get helm of the dominator... then butterfly.. then radience.. then hp aghanims^^
cool strategy, much of the items can be bought later in the end games
skadi dun stack and luna will not attack some tym u noob
Power tread,satanic,butterfly,buriza,linken sphere is enough..
This hero is banned in Korea...I guess that's how powerful she is.
huammmm... why most of you pick the lucent beam?? it's very useless for luna.. and the worse one buy the aghanim?? do you ever play luna moonfang?? she only need eclipse only for the beginning of the game and if she already have butterfly and satanic BANG!!! so easy to get GODLIKE
no satanic?
rushing EOS?
WTF
if you post I guide pls update it oftenly
Battle luna does not need scepter or mana at all. Battle luna relies on life steal/ her bounce attack/ attack speed. As long as she has enough mana to do her ult you dont need any mana items. Treads, Butterfly, Assault Curiass (just hyperstone if 2 expensive), 2 Wraith Bands, and a Lothars. This is a reasoibaly priced item build.
I forgot to mention Helm of Dominator.
Replace one wraith band with Helm of Dominator.
BOUNCE + LIFE STEAL = GG
the ulitamte killer build for luna is 2 butterfly, satanic, treads, quiras and radiance or blink dager if u like... dis is d best build for luna...
try using Lina with Manta Style, Satanic, Butterfly, Power Treads and Radiance.. She ultimately kills!
NO NO NO NO U R WRONG THE BETTER LUNA IS WITH BOOTS OF TRAVEL, AGHAMIS SCEPTER, MANTHA STYLE, REFRESHER ORB, BUTTER FLY AND BURIZA DO KYANON. THIS IS A KILLER LUNA.
BOOTS OF THE TRAVEL:TOTAL LUNA MS 410 AND TELEPORT IT HELPS LUNA GO TO THE BIGGEST WAVES OF CREEPS AND WIN ALL GOLD IN THE DOTA WORLD.
AGHAMIS SCEPTER:IMPROVES HER ULTIMATE FOR 2 LUCENT BEAMS MORE, GIVE 450HP, 400MP AND 30 INT MORE MANA TO DO HER TRIKS.
MANTA STYLE:HER BEST ITEM +16AGI OR DMG +6 INT MORE MANA +250 HP MORE LIFE AND 3 MOON RIDER TOTAL(SHE CANT BURN MANA PER ATTK BUT SHE CAN DEAL ALL DAMAGE
REFRESHER ORB:+40DMG,+4HP REG,+150%MANA REG, TOTAL 24 LUCENT BEAMS AND NEW ILUSIONS IF THE OLDERS HADNT HER TOTAL HPS.
BUTTER FLY:+30AGI,+30DMG,TOTAL +60 DMG,+30%ATTK SPD INCRSD,TOTAL +60% ATTK SPD INCRSD AND 30% CHANCE TO AVOID ATTACKS.
BURIZA DO KYANON:+75 DMG AND 20% CHANCE TO DEAL 2.2 OF THE TOTAL DAMAGE.
FIRST, LUNA
STFU nubies...in the latest version of dota ECLIPSE of MOONFANG is always 300 each hit so no nid to get lucent beam just use battle type...
not gud^^ 7/10 .. i prefer to use my ulti at level 6, becos wenever ther's a gang bang, i can activate dat, n instead of getting away, il just counter it.. another also.. dominator is 1 of the best of item for luna, ofcorse with the cobination of reaver to make it satanic,.. my complete item in a 5/5 ap game is satanic,butterfly,skadi,treads,radiance and cuirass.. dats ol..
skadi is totally BULLSHIT.
here are the items for a battle type luna:
1.treads/travel
2.butterfly2x
3.satanic
4.cuirass
5.manta
all of you guys posting are like newbies.sorry. try play with big dogs like me..
-SHINAMO of bicol,ph
skadi is totally BULLSHIT.
here are the items for a battle type luna:
1.treads/travel
2.butterfly2x
3.satanic
4.cuirass
5.manta
all of you guys posting are like newbies.sorry. try play with big dogs like me..
-SHINAMO of bicol,ph
all bunch of you guys are newbies!
shinamo of bicol,ph
yukino, you jap? anyways sugoi desu ne!
WHAT A NOOB I PREFER MOON GLAIVE AND LUNAR BLESSING THEN WHEN YOU BUY EAGLEHORN UR UNSTOPABLE AND THEN BUTTERFLY!!BUT THE HELM OF DOMINATOR IS FIRST THN ANY ITEM!! BOBO NG BUILD MO PARE
what about lifesteal guyz???
i wasnt aware of skadi on luna
but thanx
briliant guide!
umm i found a small mistake
Mana Cost: 250/ 350/ 450
Cooldown: ****1140****/120/100
Comment: Luna's dreaded ultomate. Can make mincemeat out of enemy heroes who try to face you one on one (with some exceptions, of course)
what a skill and item build ... first time see . . . Lol . . .. .. .
nonsense!!!! this guide!!! sucks!!! your wasting our time!!! shit!! all wrong!!! skadi? bulshit!! ur skill is wrong too!! fucking asswholee!!!!!!!!!!!
aganyms?.. no need!!!!!! very old strategy
hahah EoS realy works. ahaha good strat bro, "noobs try before you complian" ahahah. good guide, and you may add dagger for an easier kill.
this is my item biuld for luna:
1)statanic
2)butterfly
3)monkeybar
4)burizia
5)boots of travel
6)assault or hot
and u should own evryone
skadi is a useless orb on luna. the best orb for luna is satanic.
my build is:
treads, satanic, butterfly, aghanims, blink(if opponents piss me off), and game usually ends by then.
the first thing a luna needs is helm of dominator.
and for my skill build, i get bounce, stats, bounce, stats, (stats for more hp and dmg, makes creeping a lot easier) then ult at lvl 6, and i dont get lucent beam until like lvl 20 cuz its not really useful
What a noob build skadi,radiace? duh!
New killer item is
pwr trds
butterfly
Satanic
Burizza
aghanims
Cuirass
why eye skadi!!!!
orb efect
damit
i realy thought that EoS does not stack Luna's glaive...thanks for the info...this is what i've been waiting for.
OMG!!!!i dun tink skadi is good for luna..try gettinh helm 1st to avoid going back and can farm better bcos of its life steal...den get butterfly asap den satanic..u ll b owning wif dis item...
Zzzz...wasting money on an aghanim...and why skadi when u can get Satanic instead ? Vanguard, linken, meka ??? I really dont get this build. Leave meka to the it heroes, if u're opt against int heroes, just get BKB instead and you leave your aura out of the game till lvl 21 + ? With that item build I really dont think you'd reach lvl 25 fast enough. Only thing i agree on is the butter and buriza lol
NICE GUIDE
NICE GUIDE
My Item Buid:
-Power Treads
-Mekanism
-Vanguard
-The Butterfly
-Eye of Skadi
I think you don;t need Linken's Sphere because Eye of Skadi is better and you already have Mekanism and Vanguard with a heavy armor so I think Linken's Sphere not help too much
@ dotamaster:
your skillbuild is ****
why skill eclipse without lucent beam??
the dmg of eclipse depends on the level of lucent beam...well, i havent tried eclipse without lucent beam, but there wont be any dmg for sure
@ dotamaster:
your skillbuild is ****
why skill eclipse without lucent beam??
the dmg of eclipse depends on the level of lucent beam...well, i havent tried eclipse without lucent beam, but there wont be any dmg for sure
Above post is saddening... As you can see, the skill build states that lucent beam is maxed first. Eclipse later on. Another thing, read the title of this guide.
Anyway, here's what I think. Aghanim's is completely redundant unless you wanna be a battle type. Satanic gives you insane lifesteal and a great way to survive. And since you already got a butterfly, go get BoT instead. And a lothar's for escaping. Mekansm for later game is pretty much useless, since nearly any hero can dish out(cont.)
250 dmg in no time at all. Anywaym I thought you wanted to be an almost battle type? Your item build is a little confusing and a EoS just doesn't seem very worth it for luna since it's pretty much well, expensive. Aghanim's is pretty darn expensive too. Anyway, focus on pure damage or stats over mana. Try a radience instead and butterflies. No one can stand up to luna's attack late game
Anyway, 7/10
Nice strat Yukino, I don't agree with the Buriza though, the glaives stop bouncing if you crit.
hmm.. anymore strats???? anly 3???
2 bad..


