Alchemist Razzil guide

i prefered dagon since alchamist has Eye of Skadi for dominate in the game.

Not bad. However i know a really pro alchemist player, i'll ask him for tips and maybe make another strategy.

I used radiance as my first item on him to complement his goblin greed. From there on i build heart of tarrasque, aegis then divine. He is a good farmer

Radiance is really good for Razzil. Get Mask of Madness and Power Treads to make Chemical Rage more effective.

guides nice but i think alches better on 4on4 5on5's w/ S&Y midas threads and either another yasha or a heart if you can afford

try basher and satanic also nice when you have skadi

its better to have battle fury for you to farm more gold... i think.

I thought of radiance too but with battlefury + acid spray it will be redundant.. plus i did not get S&Y or Satanic because they do not stack with Skadi, S&Y maim chance is very low compared to 100% chance to slow with skadi and the BoT compensates for the S&Y speed. Also you can notice my end game items are just 4 so you can add hyperstone to boost Rage :)

don't you think skadi is to much??? since he has a great aspd, i think s or s&y is enough for him.

here's my item build:
early game: boS, s&y, bkb (yup only three items)
late game: boT, s&y, satanic, hyperstone, bkb (compliments his unstable concoction)

by the way, with s&y and his chem rage, it's easy to maim with high aspd, so i feel that eoS is not necessary.

urg dont force yourself to skadi since w/ skadi its most likely gonna be the lst item youl get since even w/ goblins greed theres no guarantee that youll never die the advantage of S&Y is many bonuses plus the maim doesnt have a low chance since u use chemical rage plus 100% slow is nice but maim is something your team can work with maimed units gets extra damge slow and plus you have bonus attack speed and move speed plus if your going BoT or threads its great since the money your going to spend on skadi can be spent on S&Y plus a little more gold and your w/ BoT 7k is a big money and giving it all to one item is a bad thing + alche IS a hero killer just deal w/ backstabs w/ your team plus the acid spray helps you defend your tower , skadi is a good item but is rarely used in 5 on5 since if you have skadi and your opponents had sange yasha plus other great items w/ bonus your at a major crisis, remember lvl4 items are never meant to be forcefully bought just for greediness for your own kill think whats best for your team m8s, radiance is another option

just a reminder skadi doesnt slow attk speed

i included skadi because altho he has high attack speed i am having problem chasing heroes for the kill. well S&Y is also cool provided the maim procs. if you use S&Y yes you can save money and buy other items instead like hyperstone or whatever you like to complement it. also, i based this on experience so it is maybe biased. we were left with 2v4 or 3v5 so i have to chase down heroes even with full health without any heroes with me since they are defending the base

never base your experiences when your at a lead since you should base it when at 5 on5 games to the end

:))

i suggest radiance and dagon cause he is very good farmer and dagon for escaping heroes

yes, but you cannot avoid times where you have to take the lead. especially when you play on battle.net where there are leavers galore and you don't know if your team mates can complement your skills. anyway my build is still good even on 5v5 because of the slow, maybe your build is better yes because it can save some money to be used for other items.

dont you ever go play lan games theres a assurance theres no leavers their

dont you ever go play lan games theres a assurance theres no leavers there

Let's see:
Boots of Travel
Eye of Skadi
Radiance
Heart of Tarrasque
Monkey King Bar/Divine Rapier
Aegis of the Immortal

Can these items work on him?

@donatboy
yes i can but as i've said, you'll never know what your teammates could be. i've made this so that he can be a self sustaining as well as a team player hero. the only difference i see between your build and mine is the item cost but the end goal is the same.

@shadowmastermk47
i dont think even with Alchemist, you can farm for those items.

battle fury useless for him. since he have acid spray. improve effect acid spray with desolator. get mask of madness and buriza. and replace boots of travel with power treads

I suggest u use radiance for fast farming.radiance+acid spray+goblin's greed=GODLIKE FARMING!!!!!u also need guinsoo for ur mana.u can spray,spray,spray all u want,wherever u want,whenever u want!!!!

radiance is good for razzil for farming

Nice comment. Razzil is not a hero killer but he is more weaker on 4v4 than 1on1 game

Hey u can use blink dagger to make use of the Unstable concoction ryt? Unstable ka tpos tele, acid spray, chem rage...mtagal kc ung stun...

WOuldn't it be better if Alchemist has Radiance, then boots of travel, heart of tarrasque and Hyperstone? Well, with radiance first, you can farm with acid spray and radiance, and also damage enemy heroes... BAttle fury is also good for farming...

Hmmm.... With his goblin greed,i prefer radience n battle fury to perfect it.

yeah i agree skadi is too much i dont even know if razzil is perfect for hero killing its better if u go for assist kill

havent used alchemist very much but dont you think it'd be great if he had cranium basher, stygian desolator hot and hyperstone:lets say you're facing an enemy, use acid spray which means a lot of armour reduced, and with basher and hypèr you can keep him at the posoined area while hitting and reducing more armour with desolator.

i prefered 2 regen ring and a stout shield in early game.. after i have farm 2000g... i make a vgd... and then ill farm (if ur a good farmer) money to buy radiance.. radiance is essential for farming since it has goblin's greed and acid spray w/c will make u more rich


the skill i build is
1.gg(g)
2.as(d)
3.gg(g)
4.as(d)
5.gg(g)
6.cr(r)
7.gg(g)
8.as(d)
9.as(d)
10.stats
11.cr(r)
12.stats
13.stats
14.stats
15.stats
16.cr(r)
17.stats
18.stats
19.stats
20.stats
21.stats
22.uc(e)
23.uc(e)
24.uc(e)
25.uc(e)

i don't prefer 4 battle fury because i think battle fury is a waste of gold...

this is my comment 'bout this hero..
ty...

not bad. i rated it 10

Nice strat blank! Battle fury is the right item for him. Yes, he is a great farmer and radiance is really good for farming but where do you actually think you would get the mana to spam acid spray? Radiance gives +70dmg and immolation while battlefury gives +65dmg 4hp and 100% hp regen. That's 3 items in 1. Skadi is good for hero killing if you'll use him as one but i prefer to use him more of a tank and a tower killer... but that's just me...

nice suggestion yah made o0ut there, but 4 me, i'll build radiance first since its a good combination 4 d Goblin's greed. and it also turns Razzil into a lean blue killing machine!

Good guide. Despite me name, I don't really use this character, because I think you can get TOO greedy using him. And, he's not a hero-killer. What's the point of playing DOTA if you are not killing heroes?

I also like the item build - I think it's easily attainable for the Alchemist farm-king. I also like how there's still two slots remaining...very good. Maybe a pair of bashers...? Rage + permabash = ownage.

dagon & basher combo!!!! whoohoo!!!

he is not a killer type.,, so maybe he can become a feeder for other players., i prefer to put dagon
and ginsoo.,, for disable purposes.,,,

Nice guide
@Mister_Eight:Battle fury provides 150% mana and 6 HP per second

Few things, i don't agree on battlefury, radience + an acid spray makes creeps dead in somthing like 3 seconds, you hardly get a chance to attack, splash wasted. My advice would be to get Boots, Radience, Mask of madness then probably HoT (maybe sange yasha later on, he can support very well with his unstable concoction, zooming around the map at ms of around 500, with beserk on.)

Also of note, Styggian desolator, -14 armor with acid spray, yums.

Don't be shy on your 'R' hotkey, chemical rage has 50 second cooldown, use it whenever you have half health, also another reason i don't think preservence/battlefury isn't neccessary (chemical rage also boosts your mp regen, aswell as your hp ofcourse.)

Unstable concoction is very good for games not 1 v 1, for example, cutting them off when they attempt to run, 5 second stun! Your team mates will love you!(ksing, kill stealing)

I also believe he's a good hero killer, don't underestimate this guy!

gl, gus.

nice guide... my item build is vanguard, power trads, tarrasque, sacred relic, dagger of escape, maelsrom + eaglehorn=whachamacallit

why do you buy Eye of Skadi? Too Expensive. I prefer Buriza to EoS, because he has little-effect-ulti, so when he turns to Rage form, he is more dangerous.

i think 2 cranium basher,helm of the dominator,blink dagger and pt already can kill be maga kill.

urm...
not a hero killer ??
are u kidding me ?
Hes the best hero killer in game !
If u get 3 hearts Bot's skadi and basher
(not hard to do if u farm right)
then ult
u dont loose hp
by that point your around level 20 ish
its +33 a second regen
+ heros base regen about 4 a second at this point
thats like 36 hp a second regen
ult adds 2.45x the regen
that means like 100hp a second Regen !
you rush your oponents
acid spray
ult
beat them down til they run
keep using concoction
if u play right u can keep with them
using skadi they cant run
U will stun a lot
GG !

You have to be kidding me Unstable concoction has been buffed now and it's pretty useful now as a TEAM skill since the stun will hit no matter how far away the enemy runs. Try it out in a game if your not convinced and make sure your allies know that your channeling stun so they wont stop chasing.

im my opnion Razzil don't need battlefury
with a perseverence u can spam acid spray it's very good for farming and then u can make a linkens sphere
u should also make a SnY, radiance and a basher maybe..
just my opnion

^___^ nice one brother uhmmm

well i saw some league tournaments where in razzil is banned,, he may not be an excellent hero killer but he sure is a treasure to a team...

razzil= lane dominator


uhmmm i kinda dont agree with battle fury or radiance.. coz they are far too expensive/ i think acid spray is enough,, ^__^ HoT is a great item but id rather buy items for my team mates if it is allowed

^___^ mask of madness is great item for him

uhmm but that's just my opinion^^ no offense if i quite disagree^^.V,, peace

Gay Hero.

lol ppl say this hero sucks

unekip s&y and skadi and ekip forst skadi and after s&y and u will get the effect of skadi and the bonus of s&y.

first* sry

..... i like your guide its a good one maybe the best i've seen for alchemist but i thought that when he was nerfed his ultimate was nearlly uselees

I don't like the fact that he's not a hero killer. I've tried using this hero a lot of times using everything from desolator + basher to skadi + MKB but this hero just doesn't have the damage and speed to kill.

Maybe they could change his ulti? instead of increasing life and regen change that to additional damage and attack speed?

i tink tat acid spray is too mana expensive 4 alchemist who has a low mana pool. De unstableconcoction is great 4 killin blinkers like am cos it can charge 4 5 secs n later kill am from far away. plus 5 secs is enougth 4 u in chemical rage to chase him.

best items for Alchemist are :
-Hand of midas ( gives you extra cash)
-Battle Fury ( great when you are in your acid spray )
-Radiance ( extra damage besides Acid Spray)
-Lifesteal ( Satanic )
would you agree with me ?
:D

power threads is essential instead of BoT

his hp regen during rage is insane. ALmost as fast as fountain

his hp regen during rage is insane. ALmost as fast as fountain

np man it was nice

can i put radiance

nice!!! can you send it to my friendster??

tis hro hrd to use...

these looks like the other one

u should get rad, MoM, Hyper,treads,heart,and assualt

Putang ina naman ang tatamad niyo naman mag type!
Completohin niyo naman yung mga item names.

Yeah get dagon it helps...

Get Vladimir's Offering for Razil, because Razil's armour is nothing and the mana boost is also needed + you get a nice lifeleech.

i usually get the unstable in early game when i team up with magina,void...stun,blink=kill 5secs is a lot you can do...

Very good! =D covering many aspects and i think it's a good guide! short and detailed

my alchy build is
powertreads
battlefury
radience
satanic
heart

it seems like a lot og gold but then again, its alchemist

the alchemist is more of a support hero for me. that's why i opt to get the UC even early in the game. team-up with luna or any other killers and your team is guaranteed to win.

here's what i do:

1.use UC on an unsuspecting foe and while doing so, order your team mates to get ready for a gangbang.

2. when UC is channelled for 5 secs., have your team storm in on the stunned foe. then the rest is history.

this strategy works great against pesky heroes with hide/blink abilities like lanaya, akasha, magina, puck,.. you know the rest.

item build: bracers then farm straight for radiance

Nice strat

great guide. I love alchemist and this build makes him a god

I think too that battlefury is unnecessary, look for guinso for mana recovering, life is not to be worry about with your ultimate. Truly I got to suffer with travexx's attks all lane time, but he didnt touch my tower cause my life regeneration, but I take good ideas from here thanks.

hmmmp' i like much more divine rapier!

Alchemist real skillbuild

Concoction + Goblin's Greed

this guy can become one of the fastest atking heros in the game his ults owns put a MoM in and hypers and bashers pwned

2nd skill is the best now..fast cool down and low mana..this skill is like assasinate..try this!

Unstable Concoction rulez

His stun is awesome as support. 5 seconds is a long long time for example an allied Nessaj...

As you said no flaming aight. I wont. just that i disagree what you said about Unstable connections. It keeps others away. Just buy some manaregen. At first Ring of Basilus. Good guide! keep it up

nice guide thx

i want 2 make a strategy 4 dis hero but i dont know how... in dotastrategy how can i make a guide 4 dis hero wat should i "click"?

you have to press my strategies

i think that hes stun is sick! use it when you sneak.

skadi+twin basher..it is like troll

I wish you purchase treads(str)...

why not use unstable concoction earlier in the game?? If you're against a player with low hp in early game alchemist can get a few kills!

dude... you just totally under-estimated concoction. 300 dmg and a 5 second stun for just 75 mana? sorry, but for me thats ownage early game.

u must use the 3rd skill to kill!!!!!!

it's simple but it does seems ok...

at this new version is better you get a radiance and an assault cuirass. The cuirass will help you to farm(-5 armor), gives you atack speed and armor(razzil don't have an good agi), so -5 armor + 35 AOE dps more acid spray will help you farm a lot for HoT and EoS, then get a liken sphere in place of bf(money isnt a problem), its helps you in mana,life and as, armor, etc...

i love tis guy very much,first time play can gt holy shit wif 1 sny n 2 radiance plus bot wakakakaka

sianz la.. so hard 2 farm tio all tht item
all hero i ok ok.. but this cant

sianz la.. so hard 2 farm tio all tht item
all hero i ok ok.. but this cant

sigh... unstoppable concocotion.... you say not so usefull :O

i usit frequently for easy hero killing, 5 second stun is insane -.-

Yea this really sucks, i didnt read it but i just read the part where u dont get his stun till later, no no no. not going to happen. his stun is useful even early game