Pugna: the underdog

dont ja think it would take muuuuuch time to farm so much.I would start with aghanium.nice strtg at all.

Mercurial = B**ch

Nice strategy, well done! but u have a long list of scary heroes lol!

rly? i usually go for guinsoo first off, then aghanim..i dont get dagon @ all..it works aight, jst dont lyk playing that way lolz, and lothars will stop any cancelling of ur life drain, jst drain and then use lothar..ur linken shud blook off other stuff

ok its good, i want to play with that but just a suggestion instead of dagon i think will help more guinso because on late game the dagon will not do anything to heroes like the strenght ones, and updating dagon will be costly better guinso, disabler going on team!.

dude lol tauren has 3 stuns and with pugna i like to decrep then straight away blast and dagon =to about 1500 damage there abouts. and if theyre still alive just ulti or u could buy a sheep stick, and how is pugna overlooked

Lothars dosnt work OR cancel anything by the way. Thanks for the suggestions. apprecited. Dagon is good cuz of its cooldown, but guinsoo's good too. 2 disables. I buy guinsoo when i play a support hero. Forgot to add that to the strategy... but i still dont like guinsoo first cuz with pugna mana is never really a problem and decripify has a fast enough cooldown...

Dagon is the most important item for this hero as u can decrep and then dagon its a nice amount of damage if timed rite u can nether blast and daogn the damge shuld be around 750-900
.pugna life steal is not to be used blindly use it mainly if a melee hero comes towards u and if u see u are losing the batlle decrep him run or dagon him WHAM .

now... how will u earn this much gold?

Nether blast has 5 second cooldown and does decent damage. It's more than enough for farming. And also you dont need to get ALL the items for pugna to be effective. BoT,sceptor,dagon are enough. Also if linkens is too expenive get BKB. It's slightly better than linkens cuz it blocks area of effect spells while your channeling life drain. I picked linkens cuz of mana regen and stats.

i will get BoT, HoT, Aghanim, and Dagon

guinsoo????? how about guinsoo???? change your radiance or aegis...... hmm ok ns strat anyway.....

This is a good strat and i feel that pugna is very good to go against BM when it's in the web, it can deal damage! And btw i mean in early game...

my lil broyther is him and he doesnt do that good

Why dont get BKB??? Pugna's ultimate is a channeling spell: so the Life Drain can easily interrupted with stun... BUT: if u get a BLACK KING BAR, you cant be "just" stunned during your ulti - because it grants 10 seconds of AVATAR! Just imagine, at Level 3, 9 seconds x 250 (with Scepter) hit point drain per second = 2250 DAMAGE!!! OMFG!!! You are totally MAGIC IMMUNE and PHYSICALLY almost, because of the life draining magic... 10 seconds of DEATH!!! Dagon is a good item, but it is more important i think, to have a NON-INTERRUPTABLE hero killing ultimate spell!

emmm i love d'BKB part, but... i think its not like what u thinkin' bout d'2250 damage if they escape right?
anywy that was an exllnt srtgy

Isn't it better getting aegis first since Pugna has low armor.....then buying aghanim...then linkens would be next.......

also first skill should be nether blast...then the next skill should depend on what type ur enemies are...if INT better get Nether ward...if STR or AGI get Decripify

i always random pugna and i completely hate him, and i always repick. but after reading this, maybe ill try playing him once in awhiel =D

should upgrade dagon in the mid game

umm their are many heroes that can give Pugna a hard time one of is Spiritbreaker...his bashes dont give u chance to attack. Pudge, centaur, lucifer would give him a hard time as well.

Shouldn't there be a Guinsoo's? Pugna needs a disable in which his allies can physically attack, not cast spells, particularly during early game, particularly during early game to get easy kills.

Worst allies are DOOM BRINGEr and BANE. Their ulti goes through BKB

Nice

I would suggest getting scepter a.s.a.p., and you don't need an aegis, accept now you can pick it up, so it wouldn't hurt , I think your build should be like this: Scepter, Arcane Ring, Mekansm, Boots of Travel, Dagon, and Guinsoos.

not bad not bad at all 7/10

I think you shld use banish-mether then chase the hero, banish life drain-dagon. Sure-kill provided ur mana pool is high

I DONT BELIEVE IN YOUR LIST OF SCARY HEROES... I HANDLED THEM LIKE A GARBAGEMAN HANDLES GARBAGE. WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW PUGNA TO REALLY MAKE HIM STRONG

Two things: Show the final build.... and Pugna is no underdog :p. Otherwise, okay strat.

cs rocks

cool

cool

what is BKB

Black king bar!!!

Where art tuou thy necro/guinsoo?
where art tuou thy mek?
Why art thou bot AFTER agahims?
Do stupid art thou pudga is overlooked?... he has 46-53 base damage and 4 int/level!!!

You can only have 6 items. Your item build stinks. You're insulting Pugna. As you start you should get a Boots of speed and an energy booster. Then start collecting for a Blink dagger. You have to max out Decrepify first. Forget it read my strat when/if it comes out.

@LETHAL

WELL DONE, you know what it takes to be an underdog/Oblivion. I congratulate you.

Thx for the help. I love this hero thanks for the strategy

Thx

u know u can add that the following:
1. he may have low base damage at start but if u follow closely to the end, he has the higehest intel gain out of all the heroes and considering 1 intel is 1 dmg, he ends up at lvl 25 with 144-149 base dmg or something which is better than a lot.
2. if u've just killed a hero or ur on low health and the creeps/tower r about to kill u, now is the time to cast decrepify on urself because that 4 seconds of banishment can save ur life unless there's another enemy hero nearby. u cannot be normally attacked in the time that ur decrepified, just take extra dmg from spells. creeps/tower don't have spell. that 4 seconds can allow the enemy creeps to be distracted by ur creeps.

i think i couldn't have put that in a longer way. oh well. u understand. guide was pretty good. but i see improvements.

i would say skip dagon becaus he has a pretty awesome nuke (his ulti) and take agha earlier. then add a dagger (survivability and chasing) and skadi (pump stats and for chasing) to stop people getting away. with skadi, you could then skip the early game perseverance (and get agha's earlier). thx for the guide. gl everyone with this pwnage hero.

I aim straight for aghanim.

hahahaha...good guide tough it is lacking somthing u must first I mean FIRST
start with dagon if u have one u can kill
anyone whos HP is below 800 decre+blast+dagon=150 gold....

good guide but dont accedently get bloodstone since you put perseverence in there

Nice guide!!!

??BKB??

You dont use Life drain as a nuke....you use it as your second wind

you are dying lifedrain he will hesitate to fight.... but he will he will realise that he is dying and runs away...thats how you use lifedrain.....

I only use lifedrain when im dying..... and i dont need bkb you only need to get some hp back not tottaly kill the enemy hero

Pugna....will be unstoppable when he build this..
1.sceptere
2.HoT
3.dagon5
4.mekansm
5.travel
6.radiance....

dagon 5 cost way too much cash...get dagon 1 at the max. other items that cost 5500 cash that are way better than dagon 5..

Over 5k items at end of early game that's crazy

i hope this would help me win tomorrow.. this will be a very good help for begginers like me

Always get this hero with 1v1, just get dagon, just decrepify then cast should pwn alot of people. Also great for killing people before the creeps come! Can realy lead to absolutly no moral for the other guy!

thanx for the tips

Banish and then lifedrain?

Sounds awesome, would surely do a lot of damage... if you could do it. I at least am not allowed to drain a banished hero.

did u guys know what dagon dmg gets doubled if u cast decrp on the enemy before u do it? well its true so u dont even need it as a final kill it can be used as a 1 hit ko it does wonders

on Decrepify u say NEVEr use on ur self...well its nice to use on urself. use it on urself then tp home, if ur getting ganged or allmost killed....

i would buy dagon early for easy kill at eg and u should always take some int heros with u becuase decrepify is a imba dmgampli eg for lina or lion ( linas ulti * 2 + 2 * dagon (4-800) and blast should be a sure kill

pretty nice strat but i like to make him a battle-mage... with his high atk get him SnY then Skadi then you'll own everyone....=]

this guys had a big or is it me ?

i use Decrepify follow by a nether blast.. then when i use my dagon it does not do any damage

*bug*

what a shit, why use the word BANISH? if the skill is DECREPIFY. im very much annoyed with this.

BANISH can be use for LOTHAR's edge, Windwalk, meld, and other invisible skills only! shit!

DECRPIFY is a SLOW and AMPLIFIER skill! not to banish and take not. it's not B-anish it's V-ANISH!!

pugna can be amazing with goblin techies. he just plants 1 stasis trap behind me. i get my health a bit less and then act as if i'm running. they get hopeful and chase. i stop such tht they're next to the stasis trap and start ulti. they continue hitting for about 2 seconds hoping to get a kill(which they wont cuz ulti pulls good health) and then stasis trap triggers, and ulti pulls a nice 200*6 hp from them (considering a mid-game situation with aghanim's). after tht they normally die with me at full hp, or if it's a strength hero, i normally use a decrepify-dagon here.
btw my build normally is boots of speed, arcane ring, dagon, aghanim's,perseverence,upgrade to dagon5. makes him an unbeatable nuke with the simplest of stunners(prefer to come up from behind and decrepify-ulti so they have to run all the way across me or into my tower,amazing as early game strat against pushers)

pugna sucks

hahaa

i prefer to use aghanims,dagon 5,guinsoo,kelens dagger,linkin's and boots of travel... spam nether blast on creeps because of fast cooldown and you have high mana regen...

In reply to Jec0062, reply 60

He calls it Banish because in normal Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne the Blood Mage had an ability called Banish which does the same thing as Decrepify.

"Banish
Turns a unit ethereal and slows its movement speed by X% for Y seconds. Ethereal units cannot attack, but they can cast spells and will take Z% more damage from Magic attacks and spells. "

What a nice character...

am i right in saying that pugna isn't really a late-game character?

If it gets that far on, and other chars are at or approaching lvl 25, things like life drain and other skills seem kinda pointless.

It looks like he'll need massive damage boosts from things like dagon to be effective late

Mmmm
that was a great idea...
but it still have the waekness, isn't it?
cause that is not enough to gain the MONSTER KILL...

i think this is the best build for pugna

there is a change in niax he no longer has avatar he now has rage which also works as the same almost
for the rest...
PERFECT

I love this Hero,hmm...I think Im.. gonna
use this Hero in game

urm... earthshakers has 3 stuns, not just 2

NI ZA KE KAKO SSLABO JE TOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

you forgot axe's berserker's call cancels life drain too..

pugna is better with this item's dagon 5 ginsoo, assult quirass, boots of travel,and double heart whith tis items i got 3 beyon godlikes. so.... goodluck. bytheway my it is 2 on 5. my team mate is phrophet and my enimies are raigor, purrist, bloodseeker, dark terror and jarakal...... hero don't have weaknesses it depends on your hero handling skills.


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pugna is better with this item's dagon 5 ginsoo, assult quirass, boots of travel,and double heart whith tis items i got 3 beyon godlikes. so.... goodluck. bytheway my it is 2 on 5. my team mate is phrophet and my enimies are raigor, purrist, bloodseeker, dark terror and jarakal...... hero don't have weaknesses it depends on your hero handling skills.


join pugna clan..
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fuck all

nice strategy but where`s guinsoo? pugna less armor lar..

sounds good and the skill gain is good

Did Dagon Is the First??
If you make it first you can kill many people so easly so you can make other item quickly like aganim etc...but why Radience..he is an Inteligent hero???

with all those items, you're too fragile.
add Assault / Skadi / Heart.

and why buy Dagon last?
it's damage would not hurt enemies at that stage. (even wif decrepify)


and I disagree on the comment on Decrepify. You MAY cast it on yourself... e.g. Void and Jahrakal chases you... You can cast Decrepify on yourself (to avoid their attacks, or prolly wait for a teammate... very much like why an Obsidian Destroyer would cast Astral Imprisonment on his/herself)

good guide, but by end of early game i doubt you will have perseverance, boots of speed, bracer, point booster and dagon. costs too much.

as far as i kno STILL Radiance dosnt give 70 dmg bonus just 60

WHY NO HEART

buy aghanim for wat waste of money

a fine strategy you've got there lad
keep it going and make many more

Mah fave hero...total ownage of slow-brained suckers with the life drain+AS...

Nice strat, but umm... how far is the life drain range

bit short, try to include at the end of every gamephase what items you should have, easier for noobs to comprehend. with the itmes, instead of perseverance i take arcane ring, is cheaper, and, u have no risk in accidentally taking bloodstone and losing time with taking bloodstone apart. besides in teambattles is arcane rin galso good, your team will like you.

^ in pictures i mean.

it maye be nice to add a replay or a justification of skills leveld at the moments you level them. overall a good short guide. bkb people shouldnt be avoided completely, but watched with care, wait for the avatar ability to finish, then strike with banish+life leech, it has a 86 sec cooldown (or so...) thats enough time to take care of em before they can avatar again, exception for bkb+refresher, then you should avoid if possible.

retard!

ahhahahaa...Aegis of the Immortal - This is needed cause Pugna got low HP man, pls learn some DotA ^_^

try these items:
BOT
aghanims scepter
BKB
sheep stick
Linkins
Aegis

Hope it helps :)

Hey Nice strategy. But, hey, I can't still kill anyone while using this hero. How can I?

To the post above, simple.. Decre + blast + dagon.. if your enemy survive, sheepstick + ulti.. Still alive? The blast and decre is surely finished CD, soo, decre + blast.. Surely, that hero is dead..

Guinsoo? no guinsoo? This can help alot., hmm.. and why radiance? Waste of money..
Guinsoo and dagon and even scepter are the items good to him..

really n1 strategy =D

Pugna's worst enemy--



Dwarven Sniper---Stuns U B4 u get close enough 4 life drain.

P.S. he can also take out nether ward single handedly

why don't u use skadi for him?

pretty good huh..

good MS
good damage
and a not bad IAS
good range

especially with a slow from EoS

he rocks!!

my battle build
1. EoS
2. BoT
3. AC
4. HoT
5. Linken
6. Orchid

pretty cool

i cant say anything...

Pugna might be a dps hero if the game goes on.. First dagon then aganim then orchid.. We all know that 4 int game per level makes a very good base damage..

Dagon,travel,meka.GG^^